From: Glauber Costa <glommer-bzQdu9zFT3WakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH REPOST RFC cgroup/for-3.7] cgroup: mark subsystems with broken hierarchy support and whine if cgroups are nested for them
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 12:19:06 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5052E87A.1050405@parallels.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120913173958.GA21381-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
On 09/13/2012 09:39 PM, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 13-09-12 10:18:32, Tejun Heo wrote:
>> Hello, Michal.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 02:14:38PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
>>> I would like to see use_hierarchy go away. The only concern I have is
>>> to warn only if somebody is doing something wrong (aka flat
>>> hierarchies). Or better put it this way. Do not warn in cases which do
>>> not change if use_hierarchy is gone or default changes to 1.
>>> An example:
>>> root (use_hierarchy=0)
>>> | \
>>> | A (use_hierarchy=0)
>>> |
>>> B (use_hierarachy=1)
>>> |\
>>> C D
>>>
>>> is a perfectly sane configuration and I do not see any reason to fill
>>> logs with some scary warnings when A is created. There will be no
>>> semantical change in this setup When use_hierchy is gone.
>>>
>>> So the only thing I am proposing here is to warn only if something
>>> should be fixed in the configuration in order to be prepared for fully
>>> hierarchical (and that is a second level of children from root with
>>> use_hierachy==0).
>>>
>>> Does it make more sense now?
>>
>> Ah, okay, so what you're saying is that we shouldn't warn if 0
>> .use_hierarchys don't make any behavior difference from when they're
>> all 1, right?
>
> Exactly. 1st level of children under the root is exactly this kind of
> setup.
>
>> If so, I have no objection. Will incorporate your updated version.
>
> Thanks!
>
I want oppose it as well, but I believe part of this exercise is to make
the need to have hierarchy widespread. Warning on the case
1st-level-only case helps with that, even if we make more noise than we
should.
The reason I supported Tejun's proposal originally, is that I think that
if we make the wrong amount of noise, being wrong by a surplus is better
than being wrong by a deficit, in this case.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-09-14 8:19 UTC|newest]
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2012-09-10 22:33 ` [PATCH REPOST RFC cgroup/for-3.7] cgroup: mark subsystems with broken hierarchy support and whine if cgroups are nested for them Tejun Heo
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2012-09-11 10:04 ` Michal Hocko
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2012-09-11 17:07 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-12 9:31 ` Glauber Costa
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2012-09-12 15:49 ` Michal Hocko
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2012-09-12 17:11 ` Tejun Heo
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2012-09-13 12:01 ` Glauber Costa
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2012-09-13 17:21 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-13 12:14 ` Michal Hocko
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2012-09-13 17:18 ` Tejun Heo
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2012-09-13 17:39 ` Michal Hocko
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2012-09-14 8:19 ` Glauber Costa [this message]
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2012-09-14 19:15 ` Tejun Heo
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2012-09-17 9:11 ` Glauber Costa
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2012-09-12 15:47 ` Michal Hocko
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2012-09-12 16:41 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-11 12:38 ` Li Zefan
2012-09-11 18:23 ` [PATCH UPDATED " Tejun Heo
2012-09-13 12:16 ` [PATCH REPOST " Daniel P. Berrange
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2012-09-13 17:52 ` Tejun Heo
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2012-09-11 20:50 ` [PATCH UPDATED " Aristeu Rozanski
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2012-09-11 20:51 ` Tejun Heo
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2012-09-11 17:43 ` [PATCH REPOST " Tejun Heo
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2012-09-12 9:37 ` Glauber Costa
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2012-09-12 16:34 ` Tejun Heo
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2012-09-13 6:48 ` Li Zefan
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2012-09-11 17:08 ` Tejun Heo
2012-09-12 9:34 ` Glauber Costa
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