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From: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Serge Hallyn
	<serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Marian Marinov <mm-108MBtLGafw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: containers-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	Ted Ts'o <tytso-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	lxc-devel
	<lxc-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: ioctl CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE is checked in the wrong namespace
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 15:45:24 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <53602B84.1020304@mit.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140429222913.GD28410@ubuntumail>

On 04/29/2014 03:29 PM, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Marian Marinov (mm-108MBtLGafw-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org):
>> On 04/30/2014 01:02 AM, Serge Hallyn wrote:
>>> Quoting Marian Marinov (mm-108MBtLGafw-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org):
>>>> On 04/29/2014 09:52 PM, Serge Hallyn wrote:
>>>>> Quoting Theodore Ts'o (tytso-3s7WtUTddSA-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org):
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 04:49:14PM +0300, Marian Marinov wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm proposing a fix to this, by replacing the capable(CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE)
>>>>>>> check with ns_capable(current_cred()->user_ns, CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Um, wouldn't it be better to simply fix the capable() function?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /**
>>>>>>  * capable - Determine if the current task has a superior capability in effect
>>>>>>  * @cap: The capability to be tested for
>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>  * Return true if the current task has the given superior capability currently
>>>>>>  * available for use, false if not.
>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>  * This sets PF_SUPERPRIV on the task if the capability is available on the
>>>>>>  * assumption that it's about to be used.
>>>>>>  */
>>>>>> bool capable(int cap)
>>>>>> {
>>>>>> 	return ns_capable(&init_user_ns, cap);
>>>>>> }
>>>>>> EXPORT_SYMBOL(capable);
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The documentation states that it is for "the current task", and I
>>>>>> can't imagine any use case, where user namespaces are in effect, where
>>>>>> using init_user_ns would ever make sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> the init_user_ns represents the user_ns owning the object, not the
>>>>> subject.
>>>>>
>>>>> The patch by Marian is wrong.  Anyone can do 'clone(CLONE_NEWUSER)',
>>>>> setuid(0), execve, and end up satisfying 'ns_capable(current_cred()->userns,
>>>>> CAP_SYS_IMMUTABLE)' by definition.
>>>>>
>>>>> So NACK to that particular patch.  I'm not sure, but IIUC it should be
>>>>> safe to check against the userns owning the inode?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So what you are proposing is to replace 'ns_capable(current_cred()->userns, CAP_SYS_IMMUTABLE)' with
>>>> 'inode_capable(inode, CAP_SYS_IMMUTABLE)' ?
>>>>
>>>> I agree that this is more sane.
>>>
>>> Right, and I think the two operations you're looking at seem sane
>>> to allow.
>>
>> If you are ok with this patch, I will fix all file systems and send patches.
> 
> Sounds good, thanks.
> 
>> Signed-off-by: Marian Marinov <mm-NV7Lj0SOnH0-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org>
> 
> Acked-by: Serge E. Hallyn <serge.hallyn-GeWIH/nMZzLQT0dZR+AlfA-XMD5yJDbdMReXY1tMh2IBg@public.gmane.org>

Wait, what?

Inodes aren't owned by user namespaces; they're owned by users.  And any
user can arrange to have a user namespace in which they pass an
inode_capable check on any inode that they own.

Presumably there's a reason that CAP_SYS_IMMUTABLE is needed.  If this
gets merged, then it would be better to just drop CAP_SYS_IMMUTABLE
entirely.

Nacked-by: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-29 22:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-29 13:49 ioctl CAP_LINUX_IMMUTABLE is checked in the wrong namespace Marian Marinov
     [not found] ` <535FADDA.2070803-108MBtLGafw@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 18:35   ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-04-29 18:37   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found] ` <20140429183534.GB19325@thunk.org>
     [not found]   ` <20140429183534.GB19325-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 18:52     ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-29 21:49       ` Marian Marinov
     [not found]         ` <53601E5B.5050004-108MBtLGafw@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 22:02           ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-29 22:24             ` Marian Marinov
     [not found]               ` <536026B3.1020905-108MBtLGafw@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 22:29                 ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-29 22:45                   ` Andy Lutomirski [this message]
     [not found]                     ` <53602B84.1020304-3s7WtUTddSA@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 23:06                       ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]                         ` <20140429230624.GA28966-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 23:07                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-29 23:20                       ` Marian Marinov
     [not found]                         ` <536033A9.5070504-108MBtLGafw@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 23:22                           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                             ` <CALCETrVJY6SWjdbqSSCeOo9oid22TnL83v9oDVg06XLZfPkLCw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-29 23:47                               ` Stéphane Graber
2014-04-29 23:51                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                   ` <CALCETrXK6N8CLjPtnHVXB-BM_bxNU6e1xYGd=_UKcjKMrR3j0g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-30  0:01                                     ` Stéphane Graber
2014-04-30  0:10                                       ` Marian Marinov
     [not found]                                         ` <53603F8F.6070304-108MBtLGafw@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-30  0:12                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-30  0:11                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                         ` <CALCETrWz2i1xE_t982yA8GG4a-rD4AnU_43YA8cNdC9NpSD4Sg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-30  0:21                                           ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-30  0:23                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                               ` <CALCETrVh0hCtiK=9fmEYfUWuz4C1dPq22kvyd=OWFMH5pXGaZw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-30  0:44                                                 ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-30  1:03                                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-30  0:16                       ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-30  0:32                         ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]                         ` <20140430003236.GA6472@thunk.org>
     [not found]                           ` <20140430003236.GA6472-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-30  0:33                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-04-30  0:40                             ` Serge Hallyn
2014-04-30  7:48                             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                               ` <87ha5bntqm.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2014-04-30 13:33                                 ` Serge Hallyn

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