From: Eddie Kohler <kohler@cs.ucla.edu>
To: dccp@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/25]: Avoid accumulation of large send credit
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 05:51:38 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46206BEA.1040808@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703211844.12007@strip-the-willow>
Putting on my Sally hat:
David Miller wrote:
> Eddie, this is an interesting idea, but would you be amicable to the
> suggestion I made in another email? Basically if RTT is extremely
> low, don't do any of this limiting.
>
> What sense is there to doing any of this for very low RTTs? It is
> a very honest question.
>
> If we hit some congestion in a switch on the local network, responding
> to that signal is pointless because the congestion event will pass
> before we even get the feedback showing us that there was congestion
> in the first place.
An idea like this is definitely worth exploring. Of course it would be a
change to congestion control and would have to be treated as such. it
wouldn't be CCID3, or TCP-friendly, since TCP is (according to research &
such) responding to the RTT, due to ack clocking. You'd have to worry about
perhaps rare, but absolutely possible, cases such as persistent LAN
congestion. (Maybe a local wireless LAN?)
I wonder in Gerrit's RTT experiments what a TCP connection would achieve, and
how that would correspond to the TCP throughput equation.
Eddie
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-14 5:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-03-21 18:44 [PATCH 2/25]: Avoid accumulation of large send credit Gerrit Renker
2007-03-26 2:33 ` Ian McDonald
2007-04-10 17:24 ` Eddie Kohler
2007-04-11 14:50 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-11 15:43 ` Eddie Kohler
2007-04-11 22:45 ` Ian McDonald
2007-04-12 11:40 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-12 12:55 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-12 14:39 ` Eddie Kohler
2007-04-13 18:27 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-13 20:37 ` Eddie Kohler
2007-04-13 20:58 ` David Miller
2007-04-13 21:45 ` Ian McDonald
2007-04-13 23:43 ` Eddie Kohler
2007-04-14 5:51 ` Eddie Kohler [this message]
2007-04-15 15:44 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-15 15:56 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-15 16:23 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-15 16:41 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-18 16:16 ` [dccp] " Colin Perkins
2007-04-18 16:48 ` Lars Eggert
2007-04-18 18:32 ` vlad.gm
2007-04-18 18:34 ` vlad.gm
2007-04-20 9:45 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-20 10:20 ` Ian McDonald
2007-04-20 10:56 ` Colin Perkins
2007-04-20 11:31 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-24 22:50 ` Colin Perkins
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