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From: Eddie Kohler <kohler@cs.ucla.edu>
To: dccp@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/25]: Avoid accumulation of large send credit
Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 05:51:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46206BEA.1040808@cs.ucla.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200703211844.12007@strip-the-willow>

Putting on my Sally hat:

David Miller wrote:
> Eddie, this is an interesting idea, but would you be amicable to the
> suggestion I made in another email?  Basically if RTT is extremely
> low, don't do any of this limiting.
> 
> What sense is there to doing any of this for very low RTTs?  It is
> a very honest question.
> 
> If we hit some congestion in a switch on the local network, responding
> to that signal is pointless because the congestion event will pass
> before we even get the feedback showing us that there was congestion
> in the first place.

An idea like this is definitely worth exploring.  Of course it would be a 
change to congestion control and would have to be treated as such.  it 
wouldn't be CCID3, or TCP-friendly, since TCP is (according to research & 
such) responding to the RTT, due to ack clocking.  You'd have to worry about 
perhaps rare, but absolutely possible, cases such as persistent LAN 
congestion.  (Maybe a local wireless LAN?)

I wonder in Gerrit's RTT experiments what a TCP connection would achieve, and 
how that would correspond to the TCP throughput equation.

Eddie

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-14  5:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-03-21 18:44 [PATCH 2/25]: Avoid accumulation of large send credit Gerrit Renker
2007-03-26  2:33 ` Ian McDonald
2007-04-10 17:24 ` Eddie Kohler
2007-04-11 14:50 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-11 15:43 ` Eddie Kohler
2007-04-11 22:45 ` Ian McDonald
2007-04-12 11:40 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-12 12:55 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-12 14:39 ` Eddie Kohler
2007-04-13 18:27 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-13 20:37 ` Eddie Kohler
2007-04-13 20:58 ` David Miller
2007-04-13 21:45 ` Ian McDonald
2007-04-13 23:43 ` Eddie Kohler
2007-04-14  5:51 ` Eddie Kohler [this message]
2007-04-15 15:44 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-15 15:56 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-15 16:23 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-15 16:41 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-18 16:16 ` [dccp] " Colin Perkins
2007-04-18 16:48 ` Lars Eggert
2007-04-18 18:32 ` vlad.gm
2007-04-18 18:34 ` vlad.gm
2007-04-20  9:45 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-20 10:20 ` Ian McDonald
2007-04-20 10:56 ` Colin Perkins
2007-04-20 11:31 ` Gerrit Renker
2007-04-24 22:50 ` Colin Perkins

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