From: Arno Wagner <arno@wagner.name>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] Encrypt all partitions with dm-crypt
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:34:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120823193415.GA31534@tansi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5036729B.1060905@gmail.com>
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 08:12:43PM +0200, Milan Broz wrote:
> On 08/23/2012 06:07 PM, Arno Wagner wrote:
> >> Debian has full support for cryptsetup/LUKS,
> >
> > For encrypted root? News to me, but would be a good thing.
>
> I am using it for several years on Debian (supported only with combination
> with lvm IIRC).
>
> >> but not for plain dm-crypt, not to
> >> my knowledge anyway. I think this makes sense as there is no way to
> >> automatically detect an encrypted partition with no header.
> >>
> >> The only advantage I can see in using encrypted partitions with no header
> >> is to "hide" the encrypted volume, however the partition, cipher and hash
> >
> > The second one is better resilience, as there is no header
> > single-point-of-failure. Whether that is worth total loss of
> > key management depends on the application.
>
> Well, you can have detached LUKS header on USB flash disk (optionally
> with the whole boot partition) for example.
That is not really a good idea. LUKS on Flash/SSD may not work
as intended. I just added an entry for that to the FAQ (5.17).
For some scenarios, plain dm-cryp is just the way to go.
Of course, it requires some understanding, e.g. a high-entropy
passphrase is a must.
> (cryptsetup has support for separate LUKS header but no support
> in distros yet I think)
>
> (You can even have different disk with another header with shifted data
> offset in LUKS header and hide another volume inside the first
> Not that it is comfortable though but possible...)
Hehehe. Messy ;-)
> >
> >> function have to be specified somewhere if one wants the distro to be able
> >> to do automatic configuration.
> >
> > Thet is not the issue. Reasonable defaults would do that. The
> > issue is that the partiton type cannot be detected anymore
> > without the key.
> >
> >> The bootloader will need it in its
> >> configuration, which doesn't make it any better than LUKS in terms of
> >> discreetness.
> >
> > Huh? What is the bootloader going to do with that info? Last
> > I checked, you still need a running kernel and system (possibly
> > in the form of an initrd) to do anything with encrypted partitions,
> > no matter whether LUKS or plain. I may be behind times here, if so,
> > please explain.
>
> Grub2 can handle LUKS directly.
Nice. Finally a reason to switch.
> (And separate header support is perhaps easy to add.)
Should be.
Arno
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Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-22 12:10 [dm-crypt] Encrypt all partitions with dm-crypt Stayvoid
2012-08-22 12:24 ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-22 15:40 ` Stayvoid
2012-08-22 15:52 ` Heinz Diehl
2012-08-22 15:54 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-08-22 15:57 ` Javier Juan Martínez Cabezón
2012-08-23 7:28 ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-23 9:00 ` Christophe
2012-08-23 11:27 ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-23 14:12 ` Heinz Diehl
2012-08-23 15:10 ` Christophe
2012-08-23 16:07 ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-23 18:12 ` Milan Broz
2012-08-23 19:34 ` Arno Wagner [this message]
2012-08-24 14:01 ` Milan Broz
2012-08-24 14:40 ` Heinz Diehl
2012-08-24 15:14 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-05 4:21 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-05 13:01 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-06 12:54 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-06 16:46 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-06 17:53 ` Heinz Diehl
2012-09-06 19:58 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-07 16:10 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-07 19:04 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-08 2:50 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-08 7:01 ` Milan Broz
2012-09-09 16:21 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-15 0:52 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-15 1:09 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-15 1:10 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-20 7:13 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-20 9:18 ` Javier Juan Martínez Cabezón
2012-09-21 5:01 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-21 10:01 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-21 18:14 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-22 22:36 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-25 3:12 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-25 6:31 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-25 7:13 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-25 13:58 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-25 19:06 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-25 23:54 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-26 2:12 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-26 8:23 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-26 9:24 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-26 10:49 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-26 10:51 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-26 11:13 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-26 23:34 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-15 6:13 ` Javier Juan Martínez Cabezón
2012-09-08 8:13 ` Heinz Diehl
2012-09-08 13:26 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-08 14:37 ` Heinz Diehl
2012-09-08 16:05 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-08 16:39 ` Heinz Diehl
2012-09-08 19:36 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-08 14:58 ` Marc MERLIN
2012-09-19 4:15 ` Two Spirit
2012-09-19 4:52 ` Javier Juan Martínez Cabezón
2012-09-19 5:13 ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-24 14:47 ` Arno Wagner
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