From: Arno Wagner <arno@wagner.name>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] Encrypt all partitions with dm-crypt
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 17:14:39 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120824151439.GA30694@tansi.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120824144028.GB2407@fancy-poultry.org>
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 04:40:28PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 24.08.2012, Milan Broz wrote:
>
> > There is currently a lot of effort to ensure that /dev/urandom
> > cannot produce weak data even in extreme situations.
>
> I'm more than happy that Intels hardware RNG isn't used as the only
> source for randomness on systems where it is available (as proposed by
> Linus himself).
>
> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/1161881/
I agree. I think Linux does not quite understand the issue here.
If some Intel chips are compromised, nothing but a very expensive
hardware analysis or a massive intelligence blunder would reveal
that, hence it is very, very unlikely for Intel (or any other
CPU maker) to get caught red-handed.
On the other hand, mixing in a reasonable amount of other
randomness negates any attack possibilities via the HW RNG
and at the same time allows it to be used as high-quality
"stretching" material. For example, using 512 bits of
other entropy and stretch this to a few MB with the HW RNG
would still be fine (if done right) even if the HW RNG is
compromised.
The solurtion by Tso makes perfect sense cryptographically
and from a risk-management perspective. Never put all your
eggs in one basket unless there really is no other choice.
Arno
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Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-08-22 12:10 [dm-crypt] Encrypt all partitions with dm-crypt Stayvoid
2012-08-22 12:24 ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-22 15:40 ` Stayvoid
2012-08-22 15:52 ` Heinz Diehl
2012-08-22 15:54 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-08-22 15:57 ` Javier Juan Martínez Cabezón
2012-08-23 7:28 ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-23 9:00 ` Christophe
2012-08-23 11:27 ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-23 14:12 ` Heinz Diehl
2012-08-23 15:10 ` Christophe
2012-08-23 16:07 ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-23 18:12 ` Milan Broz
2012-08-23 19:34 ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-24 14:01 ` Milan Broz
2012-08-24 14:40 ` Heinz Diehl
2012-08-24 15:14 ` Arno Wagner [this message]
2012-09-05 4:21 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-05 13:01 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-06 12:54 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-06 16:46 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-06 17:53 ` Heinz Diehl
2012-09-06 19:58 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-07 16:10 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-07 19:04 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-08 2:50 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-08 7:01 ` Milan Broz
2012-09-09 16:21 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-15 0:52 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-15 1:09 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-15 1:10 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-20 7:13 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-20 9:18 ` Javier Juan Martínez Cabezón
2012-09-21 5:01 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-21 10:01 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-21 18:14 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-22 22:36 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-25 3:12 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-25 6:31 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-25 7:13 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-25 13:58 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-25 19:06 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-25 23:54 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-26 2:12 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-26 8:23 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-26 9:24 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-26 10:49 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-26 10:51 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-26 11:13 ` Matthew Monaco
2012-09-26 23:34 ` Stayvoid
2012-09-15 6:13 ` Javier Juan Martínez Cabezón
2012-09-08 8:13 ` Heinz Diehl
2012-09-08 13:26 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-08 14:37 ` Heinz Diehl
2012-09-08 16:05 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-08 16:39 ` Heinz Diehl
2012-09-08 19:36 ` Arno Wagner
2012-09-08 14:58 ` Marc MERLIN
2012-09-19 4:15 ` Two Spirit
2012-09-19 4:52 ` Javier Juan Martínez Cabezón
2012-09-19 5:13 ` Arno Wagner
2012-08-24 14:47 ` Arno Wagner
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