From: Matthias Schniedermeyer <ms@citd.de>
To: Iggy <iggy19@riseup.net>
Cc: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] nuke password to delete luks header
Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 22:36:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140116213619.GA19498@citd.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <52D83D00.50402@riseup.net>
On 16.01.2014 15:11, Iggy wrote:
>
>
> PS: An interesting, but only marginally helpful, byproduct of such a
> feature is that on the off-chance that an adversary were attempting to
> brute-force the password on their only copy of a volume (this is the
> unlikely bit), and the nuke password had less entropy than the
> decryption passphrase, then there is a chance the adversary themselves
> would remove access to the data, without intervention from the target of
> the attack, by accidentally brute-forcing the nuke password.
You wouldn't brute force using the actual system, much too slow.
You make a copy and brute force the data with something that allows as
much key/s as possible. Which means you can't use the actual system.
That also means the system that is actually used to do the brute-forcing
won't implement the "nuke" capability (Assuming at least some competence
on the attacker side) but may include code determine that it is a nuke
key, because there has to be a way to identify that status at least
after you found the correct passwort. Otherwise the feature would simply
be impossible to implement.
--
Matthias
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-01-16 21:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-01-14 2:10 [dm-crypt] nuke password to delete luks header Jim O'Gorman
2014-01-14 2:41 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-14 2:52 ` Jim O'Gorman
2014-01-14 4:04 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-14 4:36 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 5:00 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-14 7:11 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 12:05 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-14 14:34 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 19:22 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-15 19:36 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-16 11:50 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 4:30 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 5:01 ` Jim O'Gorman
2014-01-14 7:39 ` [dm-crypt] Re2: " Arno Wagner
2014-01-14 22:42 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-15 6:01 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-15 10:00 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-15 10:47 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-15 11:39 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2014-01-15 12:40 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-15 12:59 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2014-01-15 13:38 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-15 20:27 ` [dm-crypt] " Milan Broz
2014-01-16 9:50 ` Ondrej Kozina
2014-01-16 10:30 ` Thomas Bastiani
2014-01-16 13:09 ` Florian Junghanns
2014-01-16 19:33 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-16 20:09 ` helices
2014-01-16 20:11 ` Iggy
2014-01-16 21:36 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer [this message]
2014-01-16 21:55 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-16 22:49 ` Claudio Moretti
2014-01-17 8:17 ` Thomas Bastiani
2014-01-17 23:18 ` Claudio Moretti
2014-01-18 8:43 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-18 12:42 ` Claudio Moretti
2014-01-18 19:18 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-16 20:18 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2014-01-16 20:28 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-16 21:02 ` Brian
2014-01-16 21:24 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-16 20:59 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-16 21:43 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-17 12:43 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-17 13:12 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-17 14:27 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-17 15:16 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2014-01-17 14:32 ` Rick Moritz
2014-01-17 14:32 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-17 14:57 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-17 14:51 ` Heiko Rosemann
2014-01-17 15:10 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-16 12:01 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-16 11:59 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-21 22:40 ` Jonas
2014-01-23 21:26 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-23 22:11 ` .. ink ..
2014-01-23 22:30 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-23 23:43 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-27 9:04 ` Jonas Meurer
2014-01-27 12:44 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-27 20:30 ` Milan Broz
2014-01-28 10:28 ` Jonas Meurer
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-01-06 21:01 R3s1stanc3
2014-01-06 21:39 ` Heinz Diehl
2014-01-06 21:44 ` R3s1stanc3
2014-01-06 23:33 ` Claudio Moretti
2014-01-06 23:38 ` R3s1stanc3
2014-01-07 0:03 ` Arno Wagner
2014-01-07 0:01 ` Arno Wagner
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