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* [dm-crypt] Cascading encryption how-to?
@ 2014-01-21 20:59 Falko
  2014-01-21 23:50 ` Claudio Moretti
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Falko @ 2014-01-21 20:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dm-crypt

Hey there,

I was wondering how I set up cascading encryption like in Truecrypt (e.g.
aes-twofish or even twofish-serpent-aes...). I tried this: cryptsetup -v -c
serpent-twofish-xts-plain64 -s 512 -h sha512 --verify-passphrase -y --use-random
luksFormat /dev/sdx which, of course, didn't work :o). I couldn't find anything in
the man or internet either - only that it should be possible :o).

Thanks

Kind regards

fb

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* Re: [dm-crypt] Cascading encryption how-to?
  2014-01-21 20:59 [dm-crypt] Cascading encryption how-to? Falko
@ 2014-01-21 23:50 ` Claudio Moretti
  2014-01-21 23:56   ` Claudio Moretti
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Claudio Moretti @ 2014-01-21 23:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Falko; +Cc: dm-crypt@saout.de

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It was proposed in a brainstorming session[1]


On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Falko <fb1729@posteo.de> wrote:

> Hey there,
>
> I was wondering how I set up cascading encryption like in Truecrypt (e.g.
> aes-twofish or even twofish-serpent-aes...). I tried this: cryptsetup -v -c
> serpent-twofish-xts-plain64 -s 512 -h sha512 --verify-passphrase -y
> --use-random
> luksFormat /dev/sdx which, of course, didn't work :o). I couldn't find
> anything in
> the man or internet either - only that it should be possible :o).
>
> Thanks
>
> Kind regards
>
> fb
> _______________________________________________
> dm-crypt mailing list
> dm-crypt@saout.de
> http://www.saout.de/mailman/listinfo/dm-crypt
>

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* Re: [dm-crypt] Cascading encryption how-to?
  2014-01-21 23:50 ` Claudio Moretti
@ 2014-01-21 23:56   ` Claudio Moretti
  2014-01-22 13:31     ` Falko
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Claudio Moretti @ 2014-01-21 23:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Falko; +Cc: dm-crypt@saout.de

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(sorry, hit the wrong button)

It was proposed in a brainstorming session[1] in 2008, but AFAIK it's never
been implemented.

I also found this[2] in which Milan said it's possible by creating LUKS
over a LUKS device, but it's hell in terms of performance and you need to
open every single device by itself (e.g. for aes-serpent-twofish you'd have
to issue 3 separate luksOpen commands).

Since it creates performance issues, it might be best for you to create a
regular LUKS device for - say  your root filesystem and then, if you need
it and your OS supports it, you can try

a) using /etc/crypttab to "luksOpen" a part of that already encrypted
partition (I haven't tried, but it might be possible), or
b) use Truecrypt to unlock encrypted files you keep somewhere.

Cheers,

Claudio

[1]
http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/wiki/LUKSSpec20BrainStorming#Cascade_Ciphers
[2] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.device-mapper.dm-crypt/3020


On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:50 PM, Claudio Moretti <flyingstar16@gmail.com>wrote:

> It was proposed in a brainstorming session[1]
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Falko <fb1729@posteo.de> wrote:
>
>> Hey there,
>>
>> I was wondering how I set up cascading encryption like in Truecrypt (e.g.
>> aes-twofish or even twofish-serpent-aes...). I tried this: cryptsetup -v
>> -c
>> serpent-twofish-xts-plain64 -s 512 -h sha512 --verify-passphrase -y
>> --use-random
>> luksFormat /dev/sdx which, of course, didn't work :o). I couldn't find
>> anything in
>> the man or internet either - only that it should be possible :o).
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> fb
>> _______________________________________________
>> dm-crypt mailing list
>> dm-crypt@saout.de
>> http://www.saout.de/mailman/listinfo/dm-crypt
>>
>
>

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* Re: [dm-crypt] Cascading encryption how-to?
  2014-01-21 23:56   ` Claudio Moretti
@ 2014-01-22 13:31     ` Falko
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Falko @ 2014-01-22 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Claudio Moretti; +Cc: dm-crypt@saout.de

Thank you.

I also found this
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.device-mapper.dm-crypt/3357/focus=3358.

Regards
Falko

On 22.01.2014 00:56, Claudio Moretti wrote:
> (sorry, hit the wrong button)
> 
> It was proposed in a brainstorming session[1] in 2008, but AFAIK it's never been
> implemented.
> 
> I also found this[2] in which Milan said it's possible by creating LUKS over a
> LUKS device, but it's hell in terms of performance and you need to open every
> single device by itself (e.g. for aes-serpent-twofish you'd have to issue 3
> separate luksOpen commands).
> 
> Since it creates performance issues, it might be best for you to create a regular
> LUKS device for - say  your root filesystem and then, if you need it and your OS
> supports it, you can try
> 
> a) using /etc/crypttab to "luksOpen" a part of that already encrypted partition (I
> haven't tried, but it might be possible), or
> b) use Truecrypt to unlock encrypted files you keep somewhere.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Claudio
> 
> [1] http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/wiki/LUKSSpec20BrainStorming#Cascade_Ciphers
> [2] http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.device-mapper.dm-crypt/3020
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 11:50 PM, Claudio Moretti <flyingstar16@gmail.com
> <mailto:flyingstar16@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     It was proposed in a brainstorming session[1]
> 
> 
>     On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Falko <fb1729@posteo.de
>     <mailto:fb1729@posteo.de>> wrote:
> 
>         Hey there,
> 
>         I was wondering how I set up cascading encryption like in Truecrypt (e.g.
>         aes-twofish or even twofish-serpent-aes...). I tried this: cryptsetup -v -c
>         serpent-twofish-xts-plain64 -s 512 -h sha512 --verify-passphrase -y
>         --use-random
>         luksFormat /dev/sdx which, of course, didn't work :o). I couldn't find
>         anything in
>         the man or internet either - only that it should be possible :o).
> 
>         Thanks
> 
>         Kind regards
> 
>         fb
>         _______________________________________________
>         dm-crypt mailing list
>         dm-crypt@saout.de <mailto:dm-crypt@saout.de>
>         http://www.saout.de/mailman/listinfo/dm-crypt
> 
> 
> 

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