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From: Robert Nichols <rnicholsNOSPAM@comcast.net>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] About CVE-2016-4484: - Cryptsetup Initrd root Shell
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 16:51:15 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <o0g3h0$8cd$1@blaine.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2aa32b7a-8aa4-bd7a-c6f0-eaef3794e8e8@whgl.uni-frankfurt.de>

On 11/15/2016 01:42 PM, Sven Eschenberg wrote:
>
>
> Am 15.11.2016 um 20:19 schrieb Robert Nichols:
>> sulogin is going to be hard to do if the root filesystem (where
>> /etc/shadow resides) has not been decrypted. You would have to have some
>> alternative password mechanism, and you can already accomplish that in
>> GRUB with password-protected alternatives.
>>
>
> No, the root filesystem is the initram (initrd) until rootfs is switched
> over - all you have to do is adding a passwd(file) with an entry to it.
> You won't need shadow anyway, since the only login supported is a root
> login, which implies full access to shadow (usually). Of course you
> would probably not want to just grep the root line from the system, but
> generate a single line passwd(file) with an entry for root with some
> seperate password. If you trust on the cryptographic strength of the
> hashing and salting in the passwd/shadow files, you could include them
> aswell and support user and root logins with sulogin (during initrd).
> Using shadow in this particular case makes sense again.

As I said, "some alternative password mechanism."

FWIW in Red Hat systems, at least, there are several values you can pass 
for "rdbreak=" in the boot parameters that will cause the initrd script 
to drop into a debug shell before the decryption password is ever 
requested. It is a long-standing truism that without physical security, 
there is no protection for unencrypted storage on the system.

-- 
Bob Nichols     "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address.
                 Do NOT delete it.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-15 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-15 12:34 [dm-crypt] About CVE-2016-4484: - Cryptsetup Initrd root Shell Milan Broz
2016-11-15 13:27 ` Arno Wagner
2016-11-15 13:32 ` Sven Eschenberg
2016-11-15 15:18   ` Robert Nichols
2016-11-15 18:40     ` Sven Eschenberg
2016-11-15 19:19       ` Robert Nichols
2016-11-15 19:42         ` Sven Eschenberg
2016-11-15 22:51           ` Robert Nichols [this message]
2016-11-15 23:15           ` Michael Kjörling
2016-11-15 23:28             ` Sven Eschenberg
2016-11-15 23:52               ` Arno Wagner
2016-11-16  0:08                 ` Jonas Meurer
2016-11-16  1:15                   ` Sven Eschenberg
2016-11-16  7:32                     ` Milan Broz
2016-11-16 13:48                       ` Arno Wagner
2016-11-29 14:56                         ` David Niklas
2016-12-07 11:37 ` Jonas Meurer
2016-12-07 13:00   ` Arno Wagner

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