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From: "Kani, Toshi" <toshi.kani-ZPxbGqLxI0U@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] pmem: only set QUEUE_FLAG_DAX for fsdax mode
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2018 21:23:29 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1530048093.14039.286.camel@hpe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPcyv4hP_Y3xdyCa-UkYCMJ5OtnjnkwPZDS2Z2Ge8+5ymBONwQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, 2018-06-26 at 14:02 -0700, Dan Williams wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 1:54 PM, Kani, Toshi <toshi.kani-ZPxbGqLxI0U@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, 2018-06-26 at 15:13 -0400, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 26 2018 at  3:07pm -0400,
> > > Dan Williams <dan.j.williams-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 11:58 AM, Mike Snitzer <snitzer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Jun 26 2018 at  2:52pm -0400,
> > > > > Dan Williams <dan.j.williams-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Ross Zwisler
> > > > > > <ross.zwisler-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > QUEUE_FLAG_DAX is an indication that a given block device supports
> > > > > > > filesystem DAX and should not be set for PMEM namespaces which are in "raw"
> > > > > > > or "sector" modes.  These namespaces lack struct page and are prevented
> > > > > > > from participating in filesystem DAX.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
> > > > > > > Suggested-by: Mike Snitzer <snitzer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
> > > > > > > Cc: stable-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Why is this cc: stable? What is the user visible impact of this change
> > > > > > especially given the requirement to validate QUEUE_FLAG_DAX with
> > > > > > bdev_dax_supported()? Patch looks good, but it's just a cosmetic fixup
> > > > > > afaics.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This isn't cosmetic when you consider that stacking up a DM device is
> > > > > looking at this flag to determine whether a table does or does _not_
> > > > > support DAX.
> > > > > 
> > > > > So this patch, in conjunction with the other changes in the series, is
> > > > > certainly something I'd consider appropriate for stable.
> > > > 
> > > > I think this classifies as something that never worked correctly and
> > > > is not a regression. It does not identify which commit it is repairing
> > > > or the user visible failure mode.
> > > 
> > > So you're taking issue with making stacked dax configs work in older
> > > kernels?  That's fine.  We can drop the stable cc if you like.
> > > 
> > > But I mean we intended for this to work.. so the Fixes commit references
> > > can easily be added, e.g.: 545ed20e6df68a4d2584a29a2a28ee8b2f7e9547
> > > ("dm: add infrastructure for DAX support")
> > 
> > When this dm change was made, the pmem driver supported DAX for both raw
> > and memory modes (note: sector mode does not use the pmem driver).  I
> > think the issue was introduced when we dropped DAX support from raw
> > mode.
> 
> Still DAX with raw mode never really worked any way. It was also
> something that was broken from day one. So what happens to someone who
> happened to avoid all the problems with page-less DAX and enabled
> device-mapper on top? That failure mode detail needs to be added to
> this changelog if we want to propose this for -stable.

My point is that the behavior should be consistent between pmem and
device-mapper.  When -o dax succeeds on a pmem, then it should succeed
on a device-mapper on top of that pmem.

Has the drop of dax support from raw mode made to -stable back to the
baseline accepted 545ed20e6df6?  It will introduce inconsistency,
otherwise.

Thanks,
-Toshi

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-26 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-26 17:59 [PATCH v3 0/3] Fix DM DAX handling Ross Zwisler
     [not found] ` <20180626175932.8899-1-ross.zwisler-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-26 17:59   ` [PATCH v3 1/3] pmem: only set QUEUE_FLAG_DAX for fsdax mode Ross Zwisler
     [not found]     ` <20180626175932.8899-2-ross.zwisler-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-26 18:52       ` Dan Williams
2018-06-26 18:58         ` Mike Snitzer
     [not found]           ` <20180626185830.GA7171-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-26 19:07             ` Dan Williams
     [not found]               ` <CAPcyv4h6HO6fs6k7QMD77jkz2djCeWCtWomCdNb0-1Q4VKanqw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-26 19:12                 ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-26 19:13                 ` Mike Snitzer
     [not found]                   ` <20180626191346.GA7233-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-26 19:19                     ` Dan Williams
2018-06-26 20:54                     ` Kani, Toshi
     [not found]                       ` <1530046327.14039.273.camel-ZPxbGqLxI0U@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-26 21:02                         ` Dan Williams
     [not found]                           ` <CAPcyv4hP_Y3xdyCa-UkYCMJ5OtnjnkwPZDS2Z2Ge8+5ymBONwQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-26 21:23                             ` Kani, Toshi [this message]
     [not found]                               ` <1530048093.14039.286.camel-ZPxbGqLxI0U@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-26 21:28                                 ` Dan Williams
2018-06-26 21:31                                   ` Kani, Toshi
     [not found]                                     ` <1530048545.14039.288.camel-ZPxbGqLxI0U@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-26 21:51                                       ` Dan Williams
2018-06-26 22:04                                         ` Ross Zwisler
     [not found]                                           ` <20180626220430.GA4269-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-28 17:42                                             ` Kani, Toshi
2018-06-28 17:48                                               ` Mike Snitzer
     [not found]                                                 ` <20180628174815.GA18768-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-28 17:59                                                   ` Dan Williams
2018-06-28 18:01                                                   ` Kani, Toshi
     [not found]                                               ` <1530207635.14039.308.camel-ZPxbGqLxI0U@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-28 19:04                                                 ` Ross Zwisler
     [not found]                                                   ` <20180628190424.GC17758-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-28 19:40                                                     ` Kani, Toshi
2018-06-26 19:11             ` Ross Zwisler
2018-06-26 17:59   ` [PATCH v3 2/3] dax: bdev_dax_supported() check for QUEUE_FLAG_DAX Ross Zwisler
2018-06-26 17:59   ` [PATCH v3 3/3] dm: prevent DAX mounts if not supported Ross Zwisler
     [not found]     ` <20180626175932.8899-4-ross.zwisler-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-26 18:17       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-26 19:01       ` [PATCH v4 " Ross Zwisler
2018-06-26 18:48   ` [PATCH v3 0/3] Fix DM DAX handling Mike Snitzer

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