From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Lars Ellenberg
<lars.ellenberg-63ez5xqkn6DQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
dm-devel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
Kent Overstreet
<koverstreet-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
linux-bcache-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Bcache upstreaming
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 10:16:01 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130201151601.GA18452@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130201145504.GS6824-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, Feb 01 2013 at 9:55am -0500,
Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Hey, Mike.
>
> On Fri, Feb 01, 2013 at 09:10:03AM -0500, Mike Snitzer wrote:
> > Well judging by the header for commit 49731baa41df404c2c3f44555869ab387363af43
> > ("block: restore multiple bd_link_disk_holder() support") it just looks
> > like Tejun hates the fact that DM and MD are using this interface. No
> > alternative is provided; so the "DON'T USE THIS UNLESS YOU'RE ALREADY
> > USING IT." rings hollow.
>
> The original code was gross regarding kobj handling there so I might
> have overreacted. Ah right, the refcnt doesn't belong there. The
> caller should already own both the master and slave devices (creator
> of the former, exclusive opener of the latter) and that really should
> be the extent of ownership that block layer tracks.
> bk_[un]link_disk_holder() implements completely isolated refcnting
> because dm somehow calls the function for the same pair multiple
> times.
You're likely referring to how DM can load an inactive table while a
table is already active. These active and inactive DM tables can have
the same block devices associated with them. Loading a table causes the
devices to be opened exclusively with blkdev_get_by_dev. See
open_dev and close_dev in drivers/md/dm-table.c
> ISTR the problem w/ block layer was that because this adds a separate
> layer of refcnting, it can't be tied to the usual rule of block device
> access. ie. we really shouldn't need bd_unlink_disk_holder() but the
> linkage's lifetime should be bound to the exclusive open of the slave
> device, which can't currently be done.
>
> IIRC, there was only one case where this happens in dm, would you be
> interested in tracking that down? I'd be happy to lose the extra
> refcnting code and tie it back to bdev exclusive open.
I'll have a closer look.
> > Kent was talking about using MD (and though he isn't opposed to DM he
> > doesn't care to integrate with DM himself). Either DM or MD would
> > implicitly enable bcache to use this interface. But in the near-term I
> > cannot see why Kent shouldn't be able to use bd_link_disk_holder too.
>
> Being part of dm or dm should make this mostly irrelevant, no?
Sure, but I don't pretend to know when bcache will make use of either.
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2013-01-09 15:49 ` Bcache upstreaming Mike Snitzer
[not found] ` <CAMM=eLeeh6jb28KXGE9ZBbkMV1ysE-6NH2BjfpTsQcHAawEs+w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-10 17:59 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20130110175954.GR26407-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-14 22:37 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20130114223722.GZ26407-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-14 22:53 ` Mike Snitzer
[not found] ` <20130114225330.GA1365-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-17 2:27 ` Mike Snitzer
[not found] ` <20130117022728.GA16148-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-17 11:41 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20130117114104.GJ10411-jC9Py7bek1znysI04z7BkA@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-30 23:36 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20130130233643.GD12631-jC9Py7bek1znysI04z7BkA@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-30 23:48 ` Joseph Glanville
[not found] ` <CAOzFzEho6Jn8nd+vSZXEQR5_oxPEZRej=6mivJDz0MsAj5VAZg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-31 1:25 ` Kent Overstreet
2013-01-31 0:10 ` Mike Snitzer
[not found] ` <20130131001020.GA7541-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-31 1:26 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20130131012627.GF12631-jC9Py7bek1znysI04z7BkA@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-31 1:27 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20130131012747.GG12631-jC9Py7bek1znysI04z7BkA@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-31 1:48 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20130131014835.GH12631-jC9Py7bek1znysI04z7BkA@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-31 19:02 ` Mike Snitzer
[not found] ` <20130131190249.GA12786-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-31 21:08 ` Kent Overstreet
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2013-01-31 22:17 ` Mike Snitzer
[not found] ` <20130131221711.GA13540-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-31 22:25 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <CAC7rs0ue6YgqrX9Nc18GdnVtJd558F6W=BZiMXZdRqig3s7sBA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-31 23:08 ` Mike Snitzer
[not found] ` <20130131230800.GB13540-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-01 0:33 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20130201003311.GJ12631-jC9Py7bek1znysI04z7BkA@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-01 3:38 ` Mike Snitzer
2013-02-01 10:39 ` Lars Ellenberg
2013-02-01 14:10 ` Mike Snitzer
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2013-02-01 14:55 ` Tejun Heo
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2013-02-01 15:16 ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2013-02-01 15:27 ` Kent Overstreet
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2013-02-01 15:30 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130201153019.GT6824-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-01 15:33 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20130201153318.GW26407-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-01 16:08 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130201160820.GA31863-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-01 16:15 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20130201161547.GY26407-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-01 16:18 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130201161809.GB31863-9pTldWuhBndy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-01 20:32 ` Mike Snitzer
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2013-02-01 20:43 ` Tejun Heo
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2013-02-01 15:39 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20130201153936.GX26407-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-01 16:12 ` Mike Snitzer
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2013-02-01 16:17 ` Kent Overstreet
2013-01-31 22:01 ` Kent Overstreet
2013-01-31 16:52 ` Mike Snitzer
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2013-01-31 17:01 ` Kent Overstreet
[not found] ` <20130131170103.GT26407-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-01-31 17:26 ` Mike Snitzer
2013-01-09 16:01 ` Mike Snitzer
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2013-01-09 16:12 ` Mike Snitzer
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2013-01-10 16:47 ` Mike Snitzer
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2013-01-10 17:56 ` Mike Snitzer
2013-01-10 18:14 ` Kent Overstreet
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2013-01-14 22:36 ` Kent Overstreet
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