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From: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>
To: device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>
Cc: Curtis Gedak <gedakc@gmail.com>,
	parted-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org, serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com,
	Phillip Susi <psusi@cfl.rr.com>,
	Debian LVM Team <pkg-lvm-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Subject: Re: What is the deal with the partition separator?
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2011 08:38:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D5B7ED9.20304@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D5B42BE.3050301@cfl.rr.com>

On 02/16/2011 04:21 AM, Phillip Susi wrote:
> It used to be that partitions device names just had a digit added on to
> the base disk device name.  It seems that this became problematic at
> some point with device mapper and oddly named disks, and there have been
> several responses to it:
> 
> 1)  dmraid and (lib)parted now always add a 'p' between the base name
> and the partition number
> 
> 2)  kpartx from multipath-tools adds the 'p' only if the base name ends
> in a digit
> 
> 3)  Debian and Ubuntu's udev and init scripts tell kpartx to use 'part'
> instead of just 'p'.
> 
> 4)  gparted now explicitly tells dmraid to not use any character so that
> it behaves like older versions and is therefore compatible with the
> kpartx method that gparted has adopted, at least when the base name does
> not end with a digit.
> 
> Each of these components needs to agree on what the correct name is or
> chaos ensues.  I would like to discuss the merits of each and try to
> decide on a standard.
> 
> Having thought about it for a moment, it seems to me that deciding on
> always adding the 'p' is the way to go, since the 'art' just makes
> things longer for no good reason, and if you only sometimes add the 'p'
> then you can't tell if a device name that ends in a digit that does not
> follow a 'p' is a whole disk, or a partition.
> 
No.

The linux scheme since the dawn of time is to
a) Add the partition number to the device node name
b) If last letter of the device node name is a number, insert a 'p'
between device node name and partition number

with the advent of persistent device names (via udev) the partition
separator (for persistent links only!) is '-part'.

So you have

/dev/sda
/dev/sda1
/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-0WhatAStupidName
/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-0WhatAStupidName-part1

persistent device names are longish anyway, so we can as well use
something readable for partitions.

Cheers,

Hannes
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-16  7:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-16  3:21 What is the deal with the partition separator? Phillip Susi
2011-02-16  7:38 ` Hannes Reinecke [this message]
     [not found]   ` <4D5B7ED9.20304-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-16 17:19     ` [dm-devel] " Curtis Gedak
     [not found]       ` <4D5C073F.3020502-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-16 19:33         ` Phillip Susi
     [not found]           ` <4D5C268B.6070507-3tLf1voIkJTQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-16 20:18             ` Curtis Gedak
2011-02-16 19:37     ` Phillip Susi
     [not found]       ` <4D5C2793.1020601-3tLf1voIkJTQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-17  7:29         ` Hannes Reinecke
     [not found]           ` <4D5CCE75.5090202-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-17 14:57             ` Phillip Susi
     [not found]               ` <4D5D375F.9070106-3tLf1voIkJTQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-17 15:13                 ` Hannes Reinecke
     [not found]                   ` <4D5D3B34.4000005-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-17 15:13                     ` Phillip Susi
2011-02-17 16:53                       ` Alasdair G Kergon
2011-02-17 16:58                         ` Alasdair G Kergon
     [not found]                         ` <20110217165332.GE28729-FDJ95KluN3Z0klwcnFlA1dvLeJWuRmrY@public.gmane.org>
2011-02-20  5:04                           ` [dm-devel] " Phillip Susi
2011-02-17 16:54                     ` Curtis Gedak

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