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From: Paul Cercueil <paul@crapouillou.net>
To: "Andrew Davis" <afd@ti.com>,
	"Jonathan Cameron" <jic23@kernel.org>,
	"Lars-Peter Clausen" <lars@metafoo.de>,
	"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Vinod Koul" <vkoul@kernel.org>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: "Michael Hennerich" <Michael.Hennerich@analog.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org, "Nuno Sá" <noname.nuno@gmail.com>,
	dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/8] iio: new DMABUF based API, v5
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2024 10:20:06 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bbd6e9d6f239efee8886e08f3c3493fc968e53ce.camel@crapouillou.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6ec8c7c4-588a-48b5-b0c5-56ca5216a757@ti.com>

Hi Andrew,

Le lundi 08 janvier 2024 à 15:12 -0600, Andrew Davis a écrit :
> On 12/19/23 11:50 AM, Paul Cercueil wrote:
> > [V4 was: "iio: Add buffer write() support"][1]
> > 
> > Hi Jonathan,
> > 
> > This is a respin of the V3 of my patchset that introduced a new
> > interface based on DMABUF objects [2].
> > 
> > The V4 was a split of the patchset, to attempt to upstream buffer
> > write() support first. But since there is no current user upstream,
> > it
> > was not merged. This V5 is about doing the opposite, and contains
> > the
> > new DMABUF interface, without adding the buffer write() support. It
> > can
> > already be used with the upstream adi-axi-adc driver.
> > 
> > In user-space, Libiio uses it to transfer back and forth blocks of
> > samples between the hardware and the applications, without having
> > to
> > copy the data.
> > 
> > On a ZCU102 with a FMComms3 daughter board, running Libiio from the
> > pcercuei/dev-new-dmabuf-api branch [3], compiled with
> > WITH_LOCAL_DMABUF_API=OFF (so that it uses fileio):
> >    sudo utils/iio_rwdev -b 4096 -B cf-ad9361-lpc
> >    Throughput: 116 MiB/s
> > 
> > Same hardware, with the DMABUF API (WITH_LOCAL_DMABUF_API=ON):
> >    sudo utils/iio_rwdev -b 4096 -B cf-ad9361-lpc
> >    Throughput: 475 MiB/s
> > 
> > This benchmark only measures the speed at which the data can be
> > fetched
> > to iio_rwdev's internal buffers, and does not actually try to read
> > the
> > data (e.g. to pipe it to stdout). It shows that fetching the data
> > is
> > more than 4x faster using the new interface.
> > 
> > When actually reading the data, the performance difference isn't
> > that
> > impressive (maybe because in case of DMABUF the data is not in
> > cache):
> > 
> > WITH_LOCAL_DMABUF_API=OFF (so that it uses fileio):
> >    sudo utils/iio_rwdev -b 4096 cf-ad9361-lpc | dd of=/dev/zero
> > status=progress
> >    2446422528 bytes (2.4 GB, 2.3 GiB) copied, 22 s, 111 MB/s
> > 
> > WITH_LOCAL_DMABUF_API=ON:
> >    sudo utils/iio_rwdev -b 4096 cf-ad9361-lpc | dd of=/dev/zero
> > status=progress
> >    2334388736 bytes (2.3 GB, 2.2 GiB) copied, 21 s, 114 MB/s
> > 
> > One interesting thing to note is that fileio is (currently)
> > actually
> > faster than the DMABUF interface if you increase a lot the buffer
> > size.
> > My explanation is that the cache invalidation routine takes more
> > and
> > more time the bigger the DMABUF gets. This is because the DMABUF is
> > backed by small-size pages, so a (e.g.) 64 MiB DMABUF is backed by
> > up
> > to 16 thousands pages, that have to be invalidated one by one. This
> > can
> > be addressed by using huge pages, but the udmabuf driver does not
> > (yet)
> > support creating DMABUFs backed by huge pages.
> > 
> 
> Have you tried DMABUFs created using the DMABUF System heap exporter?
> (drivers/dma-buf/heaps/system_heap.c) It should be able to handle
> larger allocation better here, and if you don't have any active
> mmaps or vmaps then it can skip CPU-side coherency maintenance
> (useful for device to device transfers).

I didn't know about it!

But udmabuf also allows you to skip CPU-side coherency maintenance,
since DMABUFs have two ioctls to start/finish CPU access anyway.

> Allocating DMABUFs out of user pages has a bunch of other issues you
> might run into also. I'd argue udmabuf is now completely superseded
> by DMABUF system heaps. Try it out :)

I'm curious, what other issues?

The good thing about udmabuf is that the memory is backed by pages, so
we can use MSG_ZEROCOPY on sockets to transfer the mmapped data over
the network (having a DMABUF interface to the network stack would be
better, but I'm not opening that can of worms).

> Andrew

Cheers,
-Paul

> > Anyway, the real benefits happen when the DMABUFs are either shared
> > between IIO devices, or between the IIO subsystem and another
> > filesystem. In that case, the DMABUFs are simply passed around
> > drivers,
> > without the data being copied at any moment.
> > 
> > We use that feature to transfer samples from our transceivers to
> > USB,
> > using a DMABUF interface to FunctionFS [4].
> > 
> > This drastically increases the throughput, to about 274 MiB/s over
> > a
> > USB3 link, vs. 127 MiB/s using IIO's fileio interface + write() to
> > the
> > FunctionFS endpoints, for a lower CPU usage (0.85 vs. 0.65 load
> > avg.).
> > 
> > Based on linux-next/next-20231219.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > -Paul
> > 
> > [1]
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230807112113.47157-1-paul@crapouillou.net/
> > [2]
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230403154800.215924-1-paul@crapouillou.net/
> > [3]
> > https://github.com/analogdevicesinc/libiio/tree/pcercuei/dev-new-dmabuf-api
> > [4]
> > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230322092118.9213-1-paul@crapouillou.net/
> > 
> > ---
> > Changelog:
> > - [3/8]: Replace V3's dmaengine_prep_slave_dma_array() with a new
> >    dmaengine_prep_slave_dma_vec(), which uses a new 'dma_vec'
> > struct.
> >    Note that at some point we will need to support cyclic transfers
> >    using dmaengine_prep_slave_dma_vec(). Maybe with a new "flags"
> >    parameter to the function?
> > 
> > - [4/8]: Implement .device_prep_slave_dma_vec() instead of V3's
> >    .device_prep_slave_dma_array().
> > 
> >    @Vinod: this patch will cause a small conflict with my other
> >    patchset adding scatter-gather support to the axi-dmac driver.
> >    This patch adds a call to axi_dmac_alloc_desc(num_sgs), but the
> >    prototype of this function changed in my other patchset - it
> > would
> >    have to be passed the "chan" variable. I don't know how you
> > prefer it
> >    to be resolved. Worst case scenario (and if @Jonathan is okay
> > with
> >    that) this one patch can be re-sent later, but it would make
> > this
> >    patchset less "atomic".
> > 
> > - [5/8]:
> >    - Use dev_err() instead of pr_err()
> >    - Inline to_iio_dma_fence()
> >    - Add comment to explain why we unref twice when detaching
> > dmabuf
> >    - Remove TODO comment. It is actually safe to free the file's
> >      private data even when transfers are still pending because it
> >      won't be accessed.
> >    - Fix documentation of new fields in struct
> > iio_buffer_access_funcs
> >    - iio_dma_resv_lock() does not need to be exported, make it
> > static
> > 
> > - [7/8]:
> >    - Use the new dmaengine_prep_slave_dma_vec().
> >    - Restrict to input buffers, since output buffers are not yet
> >      supported by IIO buffers.
> > 
> > - [8/8]:
> >    Use description lists for the documentation of the three new
> > IOCTLs
> >    instead of abusing subsections.
> > 
> > ---
> > Alexandru Ardelean (1):
> >    iio: buffer-dma: split iio_dma_buffer_fileio_free() function
> > 
> > Paul Cercueil (7):
> >    iio: buffer-dma: Get rid of outgoing queue
> >    dmaengine: Add API function dmaengine_prep_slave_dma_vec()
> >    dmaengine: dma-axi-dmac: Implement device_prep_slave_dma_vec
> >    iio: core: Add new DMABUF interface infrastructure
> >    iio: buffer-dma: Enable support for DMABUFs
> >    iio: buffer-dmaengine: Support new DMABUF based userspace API
> >    Documentation: iio: Document high-speed DMABUF based API
> > 
> >   Documentation/iio/dmabuf_api.rst              |  54 +++
> >   Documentation/iio/index.rst                   |   2 +
> >   drivers/dma/dma-axi-dmac.c                    |  40 ++
> >   drivers/iio/buffer/industrialio-buffer-dma.c  | 242 ++++++++---
> >   .../buffer/industrialio-buffer-dmaengine.c    |  52 ++-
> >   drivers/iio/industrialio-buffer.c             | 402
> > ++++++++++++++++++
> >   include/linux/dmaengine.h                     |  25 ++
> >   include/linux/iio/buffer-dma.h                |  33 +-
> >   include/linux/iio/buffer_impl.h               |  26 ++
> >   include/uapi/linux/iio/buffer.h               |  22 +
> >   10 files changed, 836 insertions(+), 62 deletions(-)
> >   create mode 100644 Documentation/iio/dmabuf_api.rst
> > 


  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-11  9:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-19 17:50 [PATCH v5 0/8] iio: new DMABUF based API, v5 Paul Cercueil
2023-12-19 17:50 ` [PATCH v5 1/8] iio: buffer-dma: Get rid of outgoing queue Paul Cercueil
2023-12-21 11:28   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-12-19 17:50 ` [PATCH v5 2/8] iio: buffer-dma: split iio_dma_buffer_fileio_free() function Paul Cercueil
2023-12-21 11:31   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-12-19 17:50 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] dmaengine: Add API function dmaengine_prep_slave_dma_vec() Paul Cercueil
2023-12-21 11:40   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-12-21 15:14   ` Vinod Koul
2023-12-21 15:29     ` Paul Cercueil
2024-01-08 12:20     ` Paul Cercueil
2024-01-22 11:06       ` [Linaro-mm-sig] " Vinod Koul
2023-12-19 17:50 ` [PATCH v5 4/8] dmaengine: dma-axi-dmac: Implement device_prep_slave_dma_vec Paul Cercueil
2023-12-19 17:50 ` [PATCH v5 5/8] iio: core: Add new DMABUF interface infrastructure Paul Cercueil
2023-12-21 12:06   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-12-21 17:21     ` Paul Cercueil
2024-01-25 13:47     ` Paul Cercueil
2024-01-27 16:50       ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-01-29 12:52         ` Christian König
2024-01-29 13:06           ` Paul Cercueil
2024-01-29 13:17             ` Christian König
2024-01-29 13:32               ` Paul Cercueil
2024-01-29 14:15                 ` Paul Cercueil
2024-01-08 13:20   ` Daniel Vetter
2023-12-19 17:50 ` [PATCH v5 6/8] iio: buffer-dma: Enable support for DMABUFs Paul Cercueil
2023-12-21 16:04   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-12-22  8:56     ` Nuno Sá
2023-12-26 15:30       ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-12-19 17:50 ` [PATCH v5 7/8] iio: buffer-dmaengine: Support new DMABUF based userspace API Paul Cercueil
2023-12-21 16:12   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-12-21 17:30     ` Paul Cercueil
2023-12-22  8:58       ` Nuno Sá
2023-12-26 15:31         ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-12-19 17:50 ` [PATCH v5 8/8] Documentation: iio: Document high-speed DMABUF based API Paul Cercueil
2023-12-21 16:15   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-12-21 16:30 ` [PATCH v5 0/8] iio: new DMABUF based API, v5 Jonathan Cameron
2023-12-21 17:56   ` Paul Cercueil
2023-12-26 15:37     ` Jonathan Cameron
2024-01-08 21:12 ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-11  9:20   ` Paul Cercueil [this message]
2024-01-11 17:30     ` Andrew Davis
2024-01-12 11:33       ` Paul Cercueil

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