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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Rob Clark <robdclark@gmail.com>
Cc: Jason Cooper <jason@lakedaemon.net>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Darren Etheridge <darren.etheridge@gmail.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Sebastian Hesselbarth <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/8] DRM: Armada: Add Armada DRM driver
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 21:08:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130610200839.GY18614@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF6AEGuGuCtYQo_W3RVJ_69iDxq17s3y_y7eNmWRCw41YUvZmg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 03:59:34PM -0400, Rob Clark wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
> <linux@arm.linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > ARMADA_GEM_CREATE_PHYS is to deal with creating a gem buffer object for
> > a chunk of physical memory allocated by other means (eg, the Vmeta stuff.)
> > This allows my X server to remain compatible with the XF86 Dove driver,
> > which permits the passing of the physical address of the video frame to
> > the X server (otherwise we're into rewriting a whole load more code than
> > is really desirable - and I really don't have time to rewrite bits of
> > gstreamer and other stuff.)
> 
> ahh, gotcha.. and, ugg, that is even worse..
> 
> I'm not hugely a fan of giving userspace a way to dma into arbitrary
> phys addresses (ie. create_phys + put_image).  But I don't need to
> explain what you already know ;-)
> 
> Is there a pre-defined carveout pool that you can at least bounds
> check against?  Otherwise put this ioctl inside a #if
> CONFIG_CRAZY_SOC_VENDOR_HOLE_TO_DRIVE_A_TRUCK_THROUGH / #endif..

This driver is _not_ about supporting the GPU natively as part of the DRM,
but providing the foundations for:

(a) a properly functional interface to HDMI TVs (fbdev doesn't hack that)
    with hotplug
(b) providing sufficient infrastructure to allow video playback to work.

What this is not about is fixing the crappy userspace GPU libraries and
video decoding so that it's "secure" - not only is that way beyond my
abilities, it would also be a violation of the closed source license to
reverse engineer them so that were possible.

It is something that continues to be a problem and I'm making no claims
that I'm fixing that.  So no, I will not put such a config option around
it for the simple reason that by doing so, turning such an option off
renders userspace utterly useless and the driver might as well not exist.

If that means you want to NACK the patch, then fine; I'll just maintain
it out of tree.  I did the driver mostly for my own personal benefit to
get the Cubox to the point where I can boot it with or without the TV
connected and have it work.  But it would be a shame if that meant
that others could not benefit from about 8 solid months of my work on
this and have to put up with crappy a fbdev driver.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-10 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-09 19:06 [RFC v2 0/8] rmk's Dove DRM/TDA19988 Cubox driver Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-09 19:29 ` [PATCH RFC 2/8] DRM: Armada: Add Armada DRM driver Russell King
2013-06-10 11:10   ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-06-10 21:48     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 21:56       ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-06-10 15:57   ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 17:06     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 19:59       ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 20:08         ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2013-06-10 21:01           ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 21:15             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 22:49               ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 22:56                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 23:17                   ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 23:24                     ` Dave Airlie
2013-06-10 23:35                       ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 23:36                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 23:48                         ` Dave Airlie
2013-06-10 23:56                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-12 13:48                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-12 13:56                             ` Rob Clark
2013-06-12 16:49                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-12 17:05                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-12 19:40                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-12 23:00                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-13  0:17                                       ` Rob Clark
2013-06-13 11:19                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-13 11:50                                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-13 13:03                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-14 14:23                                             ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-14 14:42                                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-14 19:50                                                 ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-14 22:15                                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-14 22:36                                                     ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-14 13:53                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-14 14:27                                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-13 12:52                                         ` Rob Clark
2013-06-13 12:58                                           ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-12 20:04                                   ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 23:38                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 23:49                       ` Rob Clark
2013-06-10 22:01         ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-10 22:32           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 23:12             ` Rob Clark
2013-06-11  7:33             ` Daniel Vetter
2013-06-11  8:08           ` Ville Syrjälä
2013-06-10 21:38     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-09 19:30 ` [PATCH RFC 3/8] drm/i2c: nxp-tda998x: fix EDID reading on TDA19988 devices Russell King
2013-06-09 19:31 ` [PATCH RFC 4/8] drm/i2c: nxp-tda998x: ensure VIP output mux is properly set Russell King
2013-06-09 19:32 ` [PATCH RFC 5/8] drm/i2c: nxp-tda998x: fix npix/nline programming Russell King
2013-06-09 20:02   ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-06-09 19:34 ` [PATCH RFC 6/8] drm/i2c: nxp-tda998x: prepare for video input configuration Russell King
2013-06-09 19:35 ` [PATCH RFC 7/8] drm/i2c: nxp-tda998x: add video and audio " Russell King
2013-06-09 19:36 ` [PATCH RFC 8/8] DRM: Armada: add support for drm tda19988 driver Russell King
2013-06-09 19:43 ` [RFC v2 0/8] rmk's Dove DRM/TDA19988 Cubox driver Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 22:47 ` [RFC v3 0/4] " Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-06-10 22:48 ` [PATCH RFC v3 1/4] DRM: Armada: Add Armada DRM driver Russell King
2013-06-10 22:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 2/4] DRM: Armada: Add support for hardware cursors Russell King
2013-06-10 22:50 ` [PATCH RFC v3 3/4] DRM: Armada: convert Armada hardware cursor support to RGB+transparency Russell King
2013-06-10 22:51 ` [PATCH RFC v3 4/4] DRM: Armada: convert hardware cursor support to 64x32 or 32x64 ARGB Russell King

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