From: Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Eric B Munson <emunson-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton
<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
Vlastimil Babka <vbabka-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov"
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dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/6] mm: Introduce VM_LOCKONFAULT
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2015 09:25:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150821072552.GF23723@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150820170309.GA11557-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
On Thu 20-08-15 13:03:09, Eric B Munson wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2015, Michal Hocko wrote:
>
> > On Wed 19-08-15 17:33:45, Eric B Munson wrote:
> > [...]
> > > The group which asked for this feature here
> > > wants the ability to distinguish between LOCKED and LOCKONFAULT regions
> > > and without the VMA flag there isn't a way to do that.
> >
> > Could you be more specific on why this is needed?
>
> They want to keep metrics on the amount of memory used in a LOCKONFAULT
> region versus the address space of the region.
/proc/<pid>/smaps already exports that information AFAICS. It exports
VMA flags including VM_LOCKED and if rss < size then this is clearly
LOCKONFAULT because the standard mlock semantic is to populate. Would
that be sufficient?
Now, it is true that LOCKONFAULT wouldn't be distinguishable from
MAP_LOCKED which failed to populate but does that really matter? It is
LOCKONFAULT in a way as well.
> > > Do we know that these last two open flags are needed right now or is
> > > this speculation that they will be and that none of the other VMA flags
> > > can be reclaimed?
> >
> > I do not think they are needed by anybody right now but that is not a
> > reason why it should be used without a really strong justification.
> > If the discoverability is really needed then fair enough but I haven't
> > seen any justification for that yet.
>
> To be completely clear you believe that if the metrics collection is
> not a strong enough justification, it is better to expand the mm_struct
> by another unsigned long than to use one of these bits right?
A simple bool is sufficient for that. And yes I think we should go with
per mm_struct flag rather than the additional vma flag if it has only
the global (whole address space) scope - which would be the case if the
LOCKONFAULT is always an mlock modifier and the persistance is needed
only for MCL_FUTURE. Which is imho a sane semantic.
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1439097776-27695-1-git-send-email-emunson@akamai.com>
2015-08-09 5:22 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] mm: Introduce VM_LOCKONFAULT Eric B Munson
2015-08-12 11:59 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-19 21:33 ` Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <20150819213345.GB4536-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-20 7:53 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-20 7:56 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 17:03 ` Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <20150820170309.GA11557-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-21 7:25 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
[not found] ` <20150821072552.GF23723-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-21 18:31 ` Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <20150821183132.GA12835-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 10:17 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-24 13:30 ` Vlastimil Babka
[not found] ` <55DB1C77.8070705-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 13:50 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
[not found] ` <CALYGNiNuZgQFzZ+_dQsPOvSJAX7QfZ38zbabn4wRc=oC5Lb9wA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 14:27 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-24 15:09 ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-24 15:46 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-24 15:55 ` Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <20150824155503.GB17005-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 16:22 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-24 17:00 ` Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <20150824170028.GC17005-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 18:53 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
[not found] ` <CALYGNiO3r9Yx7xeS-rZ_nVCR+BRP4d0-Fnd0omkBDdh1ftnExg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 20:26 ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-25 13:41 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-25 13:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-25 14:29 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20150825134154.GB6285-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-25 13:58 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-25 14:29 ` Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <20150825142902.GF17005-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-25 18:58 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-25 19:03 ` Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <20150825190300.GG17005-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-26 7:20 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-26 15:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
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