From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Konstantin Khlebnikov <koct9i-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 3/6] mm: Introduce VM_LOCKONFAULT
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:27:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55DB29EB.1000308@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALYGNiNuZgQFzZ+_dQsPOvSJAX7QfZ38zbabn4wRc=oC5Lb9wA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On 08/24/2015 03:50 PM, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 4:30 PM, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> On 08/24/2015 12:17 PM, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am in the middle of implementing lock on fault this way, but I cannot
>>>> see how we will hanlde mremap of a lock on fault region. Say we have
>>>> the following:
>>>>
>>>> addr = mmap(len, MAP_ANONYMOUS, ...);
>>>> mlock(addr, len, MLOCK_ONFAULT);
>>>> ...
>>>> mremap(addr, len, 2 * len, ...)
>>>>
>>>> There is no way for mremap to know that the area being remapped was lock
>>>> on fault so it will be locked and prefaulted by remap. How can we avoid
>>>> this without tracking per vma if it was locked with lock or lock on
>>>> fault?
>>>
>>>
>>> remap can count filled ptes and prefault only completely populated areas.
>>
>>
>> Does (and should) mremap really prefault non-present pages? Shouldn't it
>> just prepare the page tables and that's it?
>
> As I see mremap prefaults pages when it extends mlocked area.
>
> Also quote from manpage
> : If the memory segment specified by old_address and old_size is locked
> : (using mlock(2) or similar), then this lock is maintained when the segment is
> : resized and/or relocated. As a consequence, the amount of memory locked
> : by the process may change.
Oh, right... Well that looks like a convincing argument for having a
sticky VM_LOCKONFAULT after all. Having mremap guess by scanning
existing pte's would slow it down, and be unreliable (was the area
completely populated because MLOCK_ONFAULT was not used or because the
process aulted it already? Was it not populated because MLOCK_ONFAULT
was used, or because mmap(MAP_LOCKED) failed to populate it all?).
The only sane alternative is to populate always for mremap() of
VM_LOCKED areas, and document this loss of MLOCK_ONFAULT information as
a limitation of mlock2(MLOCK_ONFAULT). Which might or might not be
enough for Eric's usecase, but it's somewhat ugly.
>>
>>> There might be a problem after failed populate: remap will handle them
>>> as lock on fault. In this case we can fill ptes with swap-like non-present
>>> entries to remember that fact and count them as should-be-locked pages.
>>
>>
>> I don't think we should strive to have mremap try to fix the inherent
>> unreliability of mmap (MAP_POPULATE)?
>
> I don't think so. MAP_POPULATE works only when mmap happens.
> Flag MREMAP_POPULATE might be a good idea. Just for symmetry.
Maybe, but please do it as a separate series.
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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <1439097776-27695-1-git-send-email-emunson@akamai.com>
2015-08-09 5:22 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] mm: Introduce VM_LOCKONFAULT Eric B Munson
2015-08-12 11:59 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-19 21:33 ` Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <20150819213345.GB4536-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-20 7:53 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-20 7:56 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-20 17:03 ` Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <20150820170309.GA11557-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-21 7:25 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20150821072552.GF23723-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-21 18:31 ` Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <20150821183132.GA12835-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 10:17 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-24 13:30 ` Vlastimil Babka
[not found] ` <55DB1C77.8070705-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 13:50 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
[not found] ` <CALYGNiNuZgQFzZ+_dQsPOvSJAX7QfZ38zbabn4wRc=oC5Lb9wA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 14:27 ` Vlastimil Babka [this message]
2015-08-24 15:09 ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-24 15:46 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-24 15:55 ` Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <20150824155503.GB17005-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 16:22 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-24 17:00 ` Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <20150824170028.GC17005-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 18:53 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
[not found] ` <CALYGNiO3r9Yx7xeS-rZ_nVCR+BRP4d0-Fnd0omkBDdh1ftnExg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 20:26 ` Eric B Munson
2015-08-25 13:41 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-25 13:55 ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-08-25 14:29 ` Michal Hocko
[not found] ` <20150825134154.GB6285-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-25 13:58 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2015-08-25 14:29 ` Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <20150825142902.GF17005-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-25 18:58 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-25 19:03 ` Eric B Munson
[not found] ` <20150825190300.GG17005-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-26 7:20 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-26 15:35 ` Vlastimil Babka
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