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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
To: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Cc: dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: drm-misc for small drivers?
Date: Mon, 30 Jan 2017 11:15:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170130111534.2a547ec9@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKMK7uFyxiY7ML1Ro_Z+huUD=jDv6Agq4R_eUxiix67j_ZBXNA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Daniel,

On Thu, 26 Jan 2017 18:08:42 +0100
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> We've discussed this a bit at LCA (with Dave and Eric), and it's
> probably best if I just summarize all the questions and opens and
> throw them out here for discussions:
> 
> - When's a driver small enough for a shared tree, and when is a
> separate tree a good idea? i915 and amdgpu are definitely big, and
> there's definitely drivers who are really small and in-between it's
> unclear. Personally I think this is easy to do with a sliding scale,
> with using topic branches (we can do them in drm-misc easily) for
> bigger stuff, and if that's a common thing, split out the driver
> (thanks to the drm-tip integration tree there's not much of a
> difference in handling conflicts due to that anyway).
> 
> - Should it be an entire separate tree for soc drivers? Problem here
> is that we lack a volunteer group (and imo it really should be a group
> to avoid the single-maintainer troubles) to run that. I think it's
> easier to proof the process first, and if we want a separate tree,
> split that out later on. This is the same thing we've done with
> drm-misc, first with a topic branch in drm-intel.git, then separate. I
> think it worked really well.
> 
> - Should we require review or at least acks for patches committed by
> the author? We have a bunch of drivers with effectively just 1 person
> working on it, where getting real review is hard. But otoh a few of
> those 1-person drivers will become popular, and then it's good to
> start with establishing peer-review early on. I also think that
> requiring peer-review is good to share best practices and knowledge
> between different people in our community, not just to make sure the
> code is correct. For all these reasons I'm leaning towards not making
> an exception for drivers, and requiring the same amount of review for
> them if they go in through drm-misc as for any other patch.
> 
> - Who's elligible? I think we could start small with a few volunteers
> and their drivers, and then anyone who's willing.

I'd be happy to have the atmel-hlcdc driver maintained in this drm-misc
tree. I just had to send a PR containing a single patch for 4.11, and it
really feels like these simple fixes/improvements patches do not deserve
a dedicated PR (not to mention that sometime I forget to send the
PR and miss a release :-)).

Now, regarding the peer-review thing, I'm not against reviewing a few
simple patches from time to time, but I don't think I'll have time to
review entire new drivers, and I guess that's the kind of thing your
looking for :-/.

> 
> - Should we force new submissions to be managed in that shared treee?
> I think for initial submission a separate pull request for
> approval-by-Dave is good (but we could do that with topic branches
> too). And it's also way too early to tell, probably better to first
> figure out how well this goes.
> 
> - CI, needed? It would be great, but we're not there yet :( Atm
> drm-misc just has a bunch of defconfigs that need to always compile,
> and that's it. Long term I definitely want more, but we're just not
> there yet. And it's a problem in general for drm-misc.
> 
> - dim scripts. Since we don't have a github flow where we can
> reasonably automate stuff on the server side we need something to
> automate on the client side. Thus far almost everyone seemed ok with
> the scripting that's used to drive drm-misc/intel/tip, but we can
> always improve things. And long term we can rework the approach
> however we want to really.
> 
> - Other stuff I've missed?
> 
> Cheers, Daniel

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-30 10:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-26 17:08 RFC: drm-misc for small drivers? Daniel Vetter
2017-01-26 17:42 ` Liviu Dudau
2017-01-26 19:12   ` Sean Paul
2017-01-26 20:48     ` Liviu Dudau
2017-01-27  6:55       ` Daniel Vetter
2017-01-27  9:44         ` Liviu Dudau
2017-01-26 19:57   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-01-26 20:54     ` Liviu Dudau
2017-01-30  9:30     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-01-30  9:49       ` Daniel Vetter
2017-01-30  9:53         ` Tomi Sarvela
2017-01-26 19:11 ` Sean Paul
2017-01-27  6:32   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-01-27 16:30     ` Sean Paul
2017-01-26 19:48 ` Eric Anholt
2017-01-27  6:52   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-01-27 16:50     ` Alex Deucher
2017-01-30  8:24       ` Daniel Vetter
2017-01-30 10:15 ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2017-01-31  7:48   ` Daniel Vetter

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