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From: Zack Rusin <zackr@vmware.com>
To: <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>
Cc: "Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Subject: [PATCH v2 6/6] drm/ttm: Clarify that the TTM_PL_SYSTEM buffers need to stay idle
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 15:38:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211105193845.258816-7-zackr@vmware.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211105193845.258816-1-zackr@vmware.com>

TTM was designed to allow TTM_PL_SYSTEM buffer to be fenced but over
the years the code that was meant to handle it was broken and new
changes can not deal with buffers which have been placed in TTM_PL_SYSTEM
buf do not remain idle.
CPU buffers which need to be fenced and shared with accelerators should
be placed in driver specific placements that can explicitly handle
CPU/accelerator buffer fencing.
Currently, apart, from things silently failing nothing is enforcing
that requirement which means that it's easy for drivers and new
developers to get this wrong. To avoid the confusion we can document
this requirement and clarify the solution.

This came up during a discussion on dri-devel:
https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/232f45e9-8748-1243-09bf-56763e6668b3@amd.com

Signed-off-by: Zack Rusin <zackr@vmware.com>
Cc: Christian König <christian.koenig@amd.com>
Cc: Thomas Hellström <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
---
 include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h | 10 ++++++++++
 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+)

diff --git a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
index 76d1b9119a2b..89dfb58ff199 100644
--- a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
+++ b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_placement.h
@@ -35,6 +35,16 @@
 
 /*
  * Memory regions for data placement.
+ *
+ * Due to the fact that TTM_PL_SYSTEM BO's can be accessed by the hardware
+ * and are not directly evictable they're handled slightly differently
+ * from other placements. The most important and driver visible side-effect
+ * of that is that TTM_PL_SYSTEM BO's are not allowed to be fenced and have
+ * to remain idle. For BO's which reside in system memory but for which
+ * the accelerator requires direct access (i.e. their usage needs to be
+ * synchronized between the CPU and accelerator via fences) a new, driver
+ * private placement should be introduced that can handle such scenarios.
+ *
  */
 
 #define TTM_PL_SYSTEM           0
-- 
2.32.0


  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-11-05 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-11-05 19:38 [PATCH v2 0/6] Support module unload and hotunplug Zack Rusin
2021-11-05 19:38 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] drm/vmwgfx: Remove the deprecated lower mem limit Zack Rusin
2021-11-05 19:38 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] drm/vmwgfx: Release ttm memory if probe fails Zack Rusin
2021-11-05 19:38 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] drm/vmwgfx: Fail to initialize on broken configs Zack Rusin
2021-11-05 19:38 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] drm/vmwgfx: Introduce a new placement for MOB page tables Zack Rusin
2021-11-05 19:38 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] drm/vmwgfx: Switch the internal BO's to ttm_bo_type_kernel Zack Rusin
2021-11-05 19:38 ` Zack Rusin [this message]
2021-11-08 11:07   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] drm/ttm: Clarify that the TTM_PL_SYSTEM buffers need to stay idle Christian König
2021-11-08 15:42     ` [PATCH v3] " Zack Rusin
2021-11-10 14:50     ` [PATCH v4] drm/ttm: Clarify that the TTM_PL_SYSTEM is under TTMs control Zack Rusin
2021-11-11 16:44       ` Zack Rusin
2021-11-13 11:26         ` Thomas Hellström
2021-11-16  7:19           ` Christian König
2021-11-16  7:43             ` Thomas Hellström
2021-11-16  8:20               ` Christian König
2021-11-16  8:33                 ` Thomas Hellström
2021-11-16  8:54                   ` Christian König
2021-11-16  9:00                     ` Thomas Hellström
2021-11-16  9:09                       ` Christian König
2021-11-16 15:49                         ` Daniel Vetter
2021-11-16 15:53                 ` Zack Rusin
2021-11-22 14:15                   ` Christian König
2021-11-22 15:05                     ` Zack Rusin
2021-11-24  8:22       ` Christian König

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