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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
To: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com>
Cc: matthew.brost@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, faith@gfxstrand.net,
	luben.tuikov@amd.com, christian.koenig@amd.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH drm-misc-next v3] drm/sched: implement dynamic job-flow control
Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2023 18:26:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231027182626.6a8ba090@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <794f9b45-db0d-4261-aefe-7da2ad0ed3b7@redhat.com>

On Fri, 27 Oct 2023 16:34:26 +0200
Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 10/27/23 09:17, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > Hi Danilo,
> > 
> > On Thu, 26 Oct 2023 18:13:00 +0200
> > Danilo Krummrich <dakr@redhat.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> +
> >> +	/**
> >> +	 * @update_job_credits: Called once the scheduler is considering this
> >> +	 * job for execution.
> >> +	 *
> >> +	 * Drivers may use this to update the job's submission credits, which is
> >> +	 * useful to e.g. deduct the number of native fences which have been
> >> +	 * signaled meanwhile.
> >> +	 *
> >> +	 * The callback must either return the new number of submission credits
> >> +	 * for the given job, or zero if no update is required.
> >> +	 *
> >> +	 * This callback is optional.
> >> +	 */
> >> +	u32 (*update_job_credits)(struct drm_sched_job *sched_job);  
> > 
> > I'm copying my late reply to v2 here so it doesn't get lost:
> > 
> > I keep thinking it'd be simpler to make this a void function that
> > updates s_job->submission_credits directly. I also don't see the
> > problem with doing a sanity check on job->submission_credits. I mean,
> > if the driver is doing something silly, you can't do much to prevent it
> > anyway, except warn the user that something wrong has happened. If you
> > want to
> > 
> > 	WARN_ON(job->submission_credits == 0 ||
> > 		job->submission_credits > job_old_submission_credits);
> > 
> > that's fine. But none of this sanity checking has to do with the
> > function prototype/semantics, and I'm still not comfortable with this 0  
> > => no-change. If there's no change, we should just leave  
> > job->submission_credits unchanged (or return job->submission_credits)
> > instead of inventing a new special case.  
> 
> If we can avoid letting drivers change fields of generic structures directly
> without any drawbacks I think we should avoid it. Currently, drivers shouldn't
> have the need to mess with job->credits directly. The initial value is set
> through drm_sched_job_init() and is updated through the return value of
> update_job_credits().

Fair enough. I do agree that keeping internal fields out of driver
hands is a good thing in general, it's just that it's already
free-for-all in so many places in drm_sched (like the fact drivers
iterate the pending list in their stop-queue handling) that I didn't
really see it as an issue. Note that's there's always the option of
providing drm_sched_job_{update,get}_credits() helpers, with the update
helper making sure the new credits value is consistent (smaller or
equal to the old one, and not zero).

> 
> I'm fine getting rid of the 0 => no-change semantics though. Instead we can just
> WARN() on 0.

Yeah, I think that's preferable. It's pretty easy to return the old
value if the driver has a way to detect when nothing changed (with a
get helper if you don't want drivers to touch the credits field).

> However, if we do that I'd also want to change it for
> drm_sched_job_init() (where 0 currently defaults to 1) such that we accept 0, but
> WARN() accordingly.

Sure. You update all drivers anyway, so passing 1 instead of 0 is not a
big deal, I would say.

> 
> I think it's consequent to either consistently give 0 a different meaning or just
> accept it but WARN() on it.

Using default as a default value makes sense when you're passing
zero-initialized objects that are later extended with new fields, but
here you update the function prototype and all the call sites, so we're
better off considering 0 as an invalid value, IMHO.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-27 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-26 16:13 [PATCH drm-misc-next v3] drm/sched: implement dynamic job-flow control Danilo Krummrich
2023-10-26 21:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2023-10-27  1:03   ` Luben Tuikov
2023-10-27  7:17 ` Boris Brezillon
     [not found]   ` <794f9b45-db0d-4261-aefe-7da2ad0ed3b7@redhat.com>
2023-10-27 16:26     ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2023-10-28  3:34       ` Luben Tuikov
2023-10-27  7:22 ` Christian König
2023-10-27  7:32   ` Boris Brezillon
2023-10-27  7:35     ` Christian König
2023-10-27  7:39       ` Boris Brezillon
2023-10-27  7:44         ` Christian König
2023-10-27  8:22           ` Boris Brezillon
2023-10-27  9:06             ` Christian König
2023-10-27 10:17               ` Boris Brezillon
2023-10-30  7:38                 ` Christian König
2023-10-30 17:56                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-10-31 13:20                     ` Christian König
2023-10-31 15:01                       ` Danilo Krummrich
     [not found]                         ` <8d4a0870-f7d0-41ee-aa25-6488b6ea037a@amd.com>
     [not found]                           ` <ZUPkfKzgKqhqQhMI@pollux>
     [not found]                             ` <c91cf097-2ed3-4669-b9ae-b16b5f875b02@amd.com>
2023-11-06 16:46                               ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-11-07  9:13                                 ` Christian König
2023-11-07 13:03                                   ` Danilo Krummrich
2023-10-27  8:25 ` Boris Brezillon
     [not found]   ` <8e117f9f-a01c-4242-8781-b2ed4969513b@redhat.com>
2023-10-27 16:31     ` Boris Brezillon
2023-10-28  3:37       ` Luben Tuikov
     [not found]   ` <a9215c37-61cd-4fbc-9f80-217daacd96bd@gmail.com>
     [not found]     ` <20231027184143.4427edb8@collabora.com>
2023-10-28  3:51       ` Luben Tuikov

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