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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
To: Liviu Dudau <liviu.dudau@arm.com>
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	Dmitry Osipenko <dmitry.osipenko@collabora.com>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	Akash Goel <akash.goel@arm.com>, Chia-I Wu <olvaffe@gmail.com>,
	Rob Clark <robin.clark@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <lumag@kernel.org>,
	Abhinav Kumar <abhinav.kumar@linux.dev>,
	Jessica Zhang <jesszhan0024@gmail.com>,
	Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>,
	Marijn Suijten <marijn.suijten@somainline.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, freedreno@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] drm/panthor: Don't use the racy drm_gem_lru_remove() helper
Date: Thu, 7 May 2026 17:03:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260507170343.044934a0@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <afykcyiURGZh0xdr@e142607>

On Thu, 7 May 2026 15:40:51 +0100
Liviu Dudau <liviu.dudau@arm.com> wrote:

> On Thu, May 07, 2026 at 02:10:27PM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > On Thu, 7 May 2026 11:01:25 +0100
> > Liviu Dudau <liviu.dudau@arm.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > On Wed, May 06, 2026 at 02:16:26PM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:  
> > > > drm_gem_lru_remove() dereference stores drm_gem_object::lru in a local
> > > > variable that's then dereferenced to acquire the LRU lock. Because this
> > > > assignment in done without the LRU lock held, it can race with
> > > > drm_gem_lru_scan() where drm_gem_object::lru is temporarily assigned
> > > > a stack-allcated LRU that goes away when leaving the function. By
> > > > the time we dereference this local lru variable, the object might already
> > > > be gone.
> > > > 
> > > > It feels like drm_gem_lru_move_tail() was never meant to be used this
> > > > way, because there's no easy way we can avoid this race unless we defer
> > > > the locking to the caller. Let's add an explicit LRU for unreclaimable
> > > > BOs instead, and have all BOs added to this LRU at creation time.    
> > > 
> > > I would argue that drm_gem_lru_scan() is broken by design. If you're going
> > > to release the LRU lock in the middle of a loop you can expect that someone
> > > will get hold of your stack-allocated LRU and end up picking the pieces.  
> > 
> > I think it's fine as long as you always use the drm_gem_lru helpers to
> > manipulate the lru field, which is true of a lot of kernel constructs.  
> 
> I think drm_gem_lru_scan() should never set an object's lru field to still_in_lru.
> It should set it to NULL when the object's node is removed from its lru and add
> it into still_in_lru without making the drm_gem_object->lru to point back to it.
> At the very end when we splice back the still_in_lru list back into lru's list we
> can then update obj->lru.

Then you run into another race between drm_gem_lru_scan() and
drm_gem_object_release(), where the LRU removal in _release() is
skipped because obj->lru is NULL, and all of a sudden, the still_in_lru
list has an element that's freed. Honestly, I don't think obj->lru
pointing to a stack allocated object is a problem as long as we don't
let gem users play freely with obj->lru (which we shouldn't do anyway).

> 
> >   
> > > This patch is fine in itself by trying to avoid stepping into the fight,
> > > but I think we should also add a warning in drm_gem_lru_scan() for future
> > > users to be aware of the dangers.  
> > 
> > Warning the user about what? There's nothing they can do about it, and
> > I don't even think it's unsafe per-se, unless someone goes off and
> > stores the drm_gem_object::lru value somewhere else while their shrink()
> > callback is called, and accesses it later, outside the shrinker path.
> > Given drm_gem_lru is not refcounted, there's no way one could safely
> > hold on the LRU they saw in the shrink() callback anyway, so I don't
> > think that's fair to blame the drm_gem_lru API for this kind of misuse.  
> 
> Yeah, that would be the warning: don't store the object's lru as you might
> get a temporary one that will become invalid after the shrinker has run.

Oh, you mean a comment explaining this should be avoided, not an actual
drm_warn(). Then yes, I think it's fine to document the expectations in
the drm_gem_object::lru doc.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-07 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-06 12:16 [PATCH 0/3] drm/panthor: Fix a race in the shrinker logic Boris Brezillon
2026-05-06 12:16 ` [PATCH 1/3] drm/panthor: Don't use the racy drm_gem_lru_remove() helper Boris Brezillon
2026-05-06 15:40   ` Steven Price
2026-05-06 16:25     ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-07 10:01   ` Liviu Dudau
2026-05-07 12:10     ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-07 14:40       ` Liviu Dudau
2026-05-07 15:03         ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2026-05-07 15:18           ` Rob Clark
2026-05-06 12:16 ` [PATCH 2/3] drm/gem: Fix a race between drm_gem_lru_scan() and drm_gem_object_release() Boris Brezillon
2026-05-06 13:21   ` Rob Clark
2026-05-06 14:33     ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-07 10:18   ` Liviu Dudau
2026-05-07 12:46   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-07 21:38     ` Rob Clark
2026-05-08  8:41       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-08 13:49         ` Rob Clark
2026-05-06 12:16 ` [PATCH 3/3] drm/gem: Stop exposing the racy/unsafe drm_gem_lru_remove() helper Boris Brezillon
2026-05-06 15:40   ` Steven Price
2026-05-07 10:20   ` Liviu Dudau

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