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From: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: airlied@linux.ie, sam@ravnborg.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] drm/vram-helper: Alternate between bottom-up and top-down placement
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 09:03:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4ead5cfc-2915-dabd-e820-6e380e442175@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d5c457e6-6808-2a00-fa21-65601abc00cf@amd.com>


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Hi

Am 24.04.20 um 08:56 schrieb Christian König:
> Am 24.04.20 um 08:27 schrieb Thomas Zimmermann:
>> Hi Christian
>>
>> Am 23.04.20 um 17:04 schrieb Christian König:
>>> Hi guys,
>>>
>>> one thing you don't seem to have considered yet is that not setting the
>>> top-down flag also won't get you the bottom-up approach, but rather the
>>> best fit.
>> Kind of unrelated: Would it pick the smallest free area that can hold a
>> BO? IOW, would a small cursor BO fill up a small free area even if
>> there's a much larger free area somewhere?
> 
> Yes, exactly that.

I see.

> 
> The bottom-up method searches for the lowest hole which can fit the
> requirements.

But there's no way to explictely select bottom-up? What is
TTM_PL_FLAG_CONTIGUOUS doing?

Best regards
Thomas


> 
> The top-down method searches for the highest hole which can fit the
> requirements.
> 
> Both of those walk the holes by the address index tree, but there is
> also the best method which looks at the holes by their size and tries to
> find the best fit.
> 
> The best method usually only needs a single tree walk instead of a
> linear search.
> 
>>> Am 23.04.20 um 15:57 schrieb Gerd Hoffmann:
>>>>> But cursor BOs are small, so they don't make much of a difference.
>>>>> What
>>>>> is needed is space for 2 primary framebuffers during pageflips,
>>>>> with one
>>>>> of them pinned. The other framebuffer can be located anywhere.
>>>> The problem isn't the size.  The problem is dynamically allocated
>>>> cursor
>>>> BOs can also fragment vram, especially if top-bottom allocation is also
>>>> used for large framebuffers so cursor BOs can end up somewhere in the
>>>> middle of vram.
>>> Well maybe instead of a ping/pong approach between top and bottom use a
>>> size based approach to place small BOs at the top and only the larger
>>> ones at the bottom (or the other way around).
>> That's what the current code does and it results in the OOM. Basically,
>> there's a large BO in the middle of vram and the pageflip's destination
>> BO does not fit before or after the large one.
> 
> Tough problem. No idea how to otherwise fix this without making the
> large BO moveable somehow.
> 
> Christian.
> 
>>
>> Best regards
>> Thomas
>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Christian.
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> 
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Thomas Zimmermann
Graphics Driver Developer
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-24  7:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-22 14:40 [PATCH 0/2] drm/vram-helper: Reduce memory fragmentation Thomas Zimmermann
2020-04-22 14:40 ` [PATCH 1/2] drm/vram-helper: Don't put new BOs into VRAM Thomas Zimmermann
2020-04-22 14:40 ` [PATCH 2/2] drm/vram-helper: Alternate between bottom-up and top-down placement Thomas Zimmermann
2020-04-23 11:18   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-04-23 12:44     ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-04-23 13:57       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-04-23 15:04         ` Christian König
2020-04-24  6:27           ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-04-24  6:56             ` Christian König
2020-04-24  7:03               ` Thomas Zimmermann [this message]
2020-04-24  7:39                 ` Christian König
2020-04-24  6:59         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-04-24  9:38           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-04-28 15:16             ` Thomas Zimmermann
2020-04-29  7:25               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2020-04-29  9:11                 ` Christian König

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