From: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
To: Mikko Perttunen <cyndis@kapsi.fi>,
Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
sumit.semwal@linaro.org, gustavo@padovan.org
Cc: "linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
talho@nvidia.com, bhuntsman@nvidia.com,
dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Erik Faye-Lund <kusmabite@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (sync points)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2020 05:36:59 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <623c1eaa-31fb-8dff-f6c0-d8cd0be60070@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <62859775-514c-2941-75ed-6905e9282a6f@kapsi.fi>
28.06.2020 12:44, Mikko Perttunen пишет:
> On 6/28/20 2:27 AM, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>> 23.06.2020 15:09, Mikko Perttunen пишет:
>>>
>>> ### IOCTL HOST1X_ALLOCATE_SYNCPOINT (on /dev/host1x)
>>>
>>> Allocates a free syncpoint, returning a file descriptor representing it.
>>> Only the owner of the file descriptor is allowed to mutate the value of
>>> the syncpoint.
>>>
>>> ```
>>> struct host1x_ctrl_allocate_syncpoint {
>>> /**
>>> * @fd:
>>> *
>>> * [out] New file descriptor representing the allocated
>>> syncpoint.
>>> */
>>> __s32 fd;
>>>
>>> __u32 reserved[3];
>>> };
>>
>> We should need at least these basic things from the sync points API >
>> - Execution context shouldn't be able to tamper sync points of the other
>> contexts.
>
> This is covered by this UAPI - when submitting, as part of the
> syncpt_incr struct you pass the syncpoint FD. This way the driver can
> check the syncpoints used are correct, or program HW protection.
>
>>
>> - Sync point could be shared with other contexts for explicit fencing.
>
> Not sure what you specifically mean; you can get the ID out of the
> syncpoint fd and share the ID for read-only access. (Or the FD for
> read-write access)
I enumerated the overall points that UAPI should provide to us, just for
clarity. Not like you haven't covered any of them, sorry for the
confusion! :)
Please see more comments below!
>>
>> - Sync points should work reliably.
>>
>> Some problems of the current Host1x driver, like where it falls over if
>> sync point value is out-of-sync + all the hang-job recovery labor could
>> be easily reduced if sync point health is protected by extra UAPI
>> constraints. >
>> So I think we may want the following:
>>
>> 1. We still should need to assign sync point ID to a DRM-channel's
>> context. This sync point ID will be used for a commands stream forming,
>> like it is done by the current staging UAPI.
>>
>> So we should need to retain the DRM_TEGRA_GET_SYNCPT IOCTL, but
>> improve it.
My point here is that the UAPI shouldn't be able to increment the job's
sync point using SYNCPOINT_INCREMENT IOCTL, which is another UAPI
constraint.
I'm suggesting that we should have two methods of sync point allocations:
1) Sync point that could be used only by a submitted job.
2) Sync point that could be incremented by CPU.
The first method will allocate a raw sync point ID that is assigned to
the channel's context. This ID will be used for the job's completion
tracking. Perhaps this method also could optionally return a sync point
FD if you'd want to wait on this sync point by another job.
We don't need a dedicated sync point FD for all kinds of jobs, don't we?
For example, I don't see why a sync point FD may be needed in a case of
Opentegra jobs.
>> 2. Allocated sync point must have a clean hardware state.
>
> What do you mean by clean hardware state?
I mean that sync point should have a predictable state [1], it shouldn't
accidentally fire during of hardware programming for example.
[1]
https://github.com/grate-driver/linux/blob/master/drivers/gpu/host1x/soc/syncpoints.c#L132
For a submitted job, the job's sync point state could be reset at a
submission time, for example like I did it in the grate-kernel's
experimental driver [2].
[2]
https://github.com/grate-driver/linux/blob/master/drivers/gpu/host1x/soc/channel.c#L145
>>
>> 3. Sync points should be properly refcounted. Job's sync points
>> shouldn't be re-used while job is alive.
>>
>> 4. The job's sync point can't be re-used after job's submission (UAPI
>> constraint!). Userspace must free sync point and allocate a new one for
>> the next job submission. And now we:
>>
>> - Know that job's sync point is always in a healthy state!
>>
>> - We're not limited by a number of physically available hardware sync
>> points! Allocation should block until free sync point is available.
>>
>> - The logical number of job's sync point increments matches the SP
>> hardware state! Which is handy for a job's debugging.
>>
>> Optionally, the job's sync point could be auto-removed from the DRM's
>> context after job's submission, avoiding a need for an extra SYNCPT_PUT
>> IOCTL invocation to be done by userspace after the job's submission.
>> Could be a job's flag.
>
> I think this would cause problems where after a job completes but before
> the fence has been waited, the syncpoint is already recycled (especially
> if the syncpoint is reset into some clean state).
Exactly, good point! The dma-fence shouldn't be hardwired to the sync
point in order to avoid this situation :)
Please take a look at the fence implementation that I made for the
grate-driver [3]. The host1x-fence is a dma-fence [4] that is attached
to a sync point by host1x_fence_create(). Once job is completed, the
host1x-fence is detached from the sync point [5][6] and sync point could
be recycled safely!
[3]
https://github.com/grate-driver/linux/blob/master/drivers/gpu/host1x/fence.c
[4]
https://github.com/grate-driver/linux/blob/master/include/linux/host1x.h#L450
[5]
https://github.com/grate-driver/linux/blob/master/drivers/gpu/host1x/soc/syncpoints_hw.c#L50
[6]
https://github.com/grate-driver/linux/blob/master/drivers/gpu/drm/tegra/uapi/scheduler.c#L133
Please try to take a closer look at the grate-driver's implementation if
you haven't yet. I think we should be able to reuse or improve some of
the ideas. That implementation isn't 100% complete, it doesn't cover
things like CPU-incremented or exported sync points for example, but
basics are there.
> I would prefer having a syncpoint for each userspace channel context
> (several of which could share a hardware channel if MLOCKing is not used).
>
> In my experience it's then not difficult to pinpoint which job has
> failed, and if each userspace channel context uses a separate syncpoint,
> a hanging job wouldn't mess with other application's jobs, either.
I agree that there shouldn't be any problems with finding what job is
hanged. The timed out job is always the hanged job, no? :)
Also, please take a look at the DRM scheduler. Once I started to wire up
the DRM scheduler support in the grate-driver, I realized that there is
no real need to try to recover sync point's counter and etc, like the
current upstream host1x driver does for a hanged job. When job is
hanged, the whole channel should be turned down and reset, the job's
sync point state reset, client's HW engine reset, all the pre-queued
jobs re-submitted. And the generic DRM job scheduler helps us with that!
It also has other neat features which I haven't tried yet, like job
priorities for example.
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-23 12:09 [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-24 20:55 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 9:17 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-24 22:33 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 9:27 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-25 22:50 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (drm_tegra_submit_relocation) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-26 9:01 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-24 23:11 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 9:16 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-25 23:24 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-26 9:05 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-24 23:18 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 0:59 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-24 23:23 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 9:19 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-25 0:47 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 9:23 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-25 22:47 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (drm_tegra_channel_map) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-26 7:34 ` Thierry Reding
2020-06-26 16:35 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-28 11:16 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-28 22:59 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-30 10:55 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-30 19:48 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-26 11:06 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Karol Herbst
2020-06-26 11:13 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-26 11:16 ` Karol Herbst
2020-06-26 11:40 ` Thierry Reding
2020-06-26 13:38 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-26 13:59 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-30 9:09 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-27 21:47 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (drm_tegra_submit_syncpt_incr) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-28 11:10 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-27 22:32 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (drm_tegra_submit_command) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-28 10:28 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-29 0:00 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-30 10:40 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-27 23:27 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (sync points) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-28 9:44 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-29 2:36 ` Dmitry Osipenko [this message]
2020-06-29 10:27 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-29 19:28 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-29 19:33 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-29 19:42 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-30 10:26 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-07-01 0:22 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-07-02 12:10 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-07-07 11:06 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-07-08 10:06 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-07-09 9:28 ` Dmitry Osipenko
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