From: Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>
To: Mikko Perttunen <cyndis@kapsi.fi>,
Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
Jon Hunter <jonathanh@nvidia.com>,
David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>, Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
sumit.semwal@linaro.org, gustavo@padovan.org
Cc: "linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org>,
talho@nvidia.com, bhuntsman@nvidia.com,
dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Erik Faye-Lund <kusmabite@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (sync points)
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:28:47 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7feec6b2-3d00-04ac-92d0-dcc40751f9fa@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d3a6c005-0d85-e7b9-41a2-3d86595efbc1@kapsi.fi>
08.07.2020 13:06, Mikko Perttunen пишет:
> On 7/7/20 2:06 PM, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>> 02.07.2020 15:10, Mikko Perttunen пишет:
>>> Ok, so we would have two kinds of syncpoints for the job; one
>>> for kernel job tracking; and one that userspace can
>>> manipulate as it wants to.
>>>
>>> Could we handle the job tracking syncpoint completely inside the kernel,
>>> i.e. allocate it in kernel during job submission, and add an increment
>>> for it at the end of the job (with condition OP_DONE)? For MLOCKing, the
>>> kernel already needs to insert a SYNCPT_INCR(OP_DONE) + WAIT +
>>> MLOCK_RELEASE sequence at the end of each job.
>>
>> If sync point is allocated within kernel, then we'll need to always
>> patch all job's sync point increments with the ID of the allocated sync
>> point, regardless of whether firewall enabled or not.
>
> The idea was that the job tracking increment would also be added to the
> pushbuffer in the kernel, so gathers would only have increments for the
> "user syncpoints", if any. I think this should work for THI-based
> engines (e.g. VIC), you probably have better information about
> GR2D/GR3D. On newer Tegras we could use CHANNEL/APPID protection to
> prevent the gathers from incrementing these job tracking syncpoints.
Could you please clarify what is THI?
>> Secondly, I'm now recalling that only one sync point could be assigned
>> to a channel at a time on newer Tegras which support sync point
>> protection. So it sounds like we don't really have variants other than
>> to allocate one sync point per channel for the jobs usage if we want to
>> be able to push multiple jobs into channel's pushbuffer, correct?
>>
>
> The other way around; each syncpoint can be assigned to one channel. One
> channel may have multiple syncpoints.
Okay! So we actually could use a single sync point per-job for user
increments + job tracking, correct?
>> ...
>>>> Hmm, we actually should be able to have a one sync point per-channel
>>>> for
>>>> the job submission, similarly to what the current driver does!
>>>>
>>>> I'm keep forgetting about the waitbase existence!
>>>
>>> Tegra194 doesn't have waitbases, but if we are resubmitting all the jobs
>>> anyway, can't we just recalculate wait thresholds at that time?
>>
>> Yes, thresholds could be recalculated + job should be re-formed at the
>> push-time then.
>>
>> It also means that jobs always should be formed only at the push-time if
>> wait-command is utilized by cmdstream since the waits always need to be
>> patched because we won't know the thresholds until scheduler actually
>> runs the job.
>
> Could we keep the job tracking syncpoints entirely within the kernel,
> and have all wait commands and other stuff that userspace does use the
> user syncpoints? Then kernel job tracking and userspace activity would
> be separate from each other.
I think this should work, but it's not clear to me what benefits this
brings to us if we could re-use the same user-allocated sync point for
both user increments + kernel job tracking.
Is the idea to protect from userspace incrementing sync point too much?
I.e. job could be treated as completed before CDMA is actually done with
it.
> Alternatively, if we know that jobs can only be removed from the middle
> of pushbuffers, and not added, we could replace any removed jobs with
> syncpoint increments in the pushbuffer and any thresholds would stay
> intact.
A bit unlikely that jobs could ever be removed from the middle of
hardware queue by the DRM scheduler.
Anyways, it should be nicer to shoot down everything and restart with a
clean slate when necessary, like it's already supposed to happen by the
scheduler.
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Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-06-23 12:09 [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-24 20:55 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 9:17 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-24 22:33 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 9:27 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-25 22:50 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (drm_tegra_submit_relocation) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-26 9:01 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-24 23:11 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 9:16 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-25 23:24 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-26 9:05 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-24 23:18 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 0:59 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-24 23:23 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 9:19 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-25 0:47 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-25 9:23 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-25 22:47 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (drm_tegra_channel_map) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-26 7:34 ` Thierry Reding
2020-06-26 16:35 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-28 11:16 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-28 22:59 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-30 10:55 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-30 19:48 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-26 11:06 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI Karol Herbst
2020-06-26 11:13 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-26 11:16 ` Karol Herbst
2020-06-26 11:40 ` Thierry Reding
2020-06-26 13:38 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-26 13:59 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-30 9:09 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-06-27 21:47 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (drm_tegra_submit_syncpt_incr) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-28 11:10 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-27 22:32 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (drm_tegra_submit_command) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-28 10:28 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-29 0:00 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-30 10:40 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-27 23:27 ` [RFC] Host1x/TegraDRM UAPI (sync points) Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-28 9:44 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-29 2:36 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-29 10:27 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-06-29 19:28 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-29 19:33 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-29 19:42 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-06-30 10:26 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-07-01 0:22 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-07-02 12:10 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-07-07 11:06 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2020-07-08 10:06 ` Mikko Perttunen
2020-07-09 9:28 ` Dmitry Osipenko [this message]
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