From: "Luca Ceresoli" <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
To: "Luca Ceresoli" <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>,
"Maxime Ripard" <mripard@kernel.org>
Cc: "Maarten Lankhorst" <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
"Thomas Zimmermann" <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
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"Thomas Petazzoni" <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/11] drm/panel: merge the drm_kms_helper module into the drm module
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2026 16:30:40 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DL41VXI6IT94.CXUS4CYX1WJO@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DL3ZJBN3TALE.XBW7KL51XGBO@bootlin.com>
On Tue Sep 1, 2026 at 2:40 PM CEST, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
[...]
>>> >> > And we'd essentially move drm_panel_bridge into drm_panel.c, and make it
>>> >> > private.
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes in theory, but the panel_bridge code uses other parts of the
>>> >> drm_kms_helper module: drm_atomic_helper and drm_probe_helper, maybe more,
>>> >> so we'd have to move them into the drm module too.
>>> >
>>> > Ah, right. What would happen if we were doing it the other way around
>>> > then? Move drm_panel out of the main drm module?
>>>
>>> Into the drm_kms_helper module?
>>>
>>> I had a look and did some experiments and I found at least one user in the drm
>>> module calling a drm_panel API, and guess who:
>>>
>>> drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() (in drm_of.c, drm module)
>>> -> calls of_drm_find_panel (in drm_panel.c, drm_kms_helper module)
>>>
>>> Based on our discussion after patch 3, I'm not sure
>>> drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() will disappear soon. If it doesn't, I guess
>>> we can try to move drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() into bridge/panel.c which
>>> is in the drm_kms_helper module (and from drm_of.h info
>>> drm_bridge.h?). That however might trigger build failures for drivers which
>>> currently don't select DRM_KMS_HELPER and which would have to select it.
>>>
>>> I'll give it a try, and if I see major drawbacks I will get back to moving
>>> all the drm_kms_helper code into the main drm module.
>>
>> No, I meant into its own module.
>
> Looks like a good idea indeed, making the design more modular and
> dependencies cleaner.
>
>> Do we have any dependency from the main
>> drm module into drm_panel?
>
> As far as I can see there is only the one mentioned above:
>
> drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() (in drm_of.c, drm module)
> -> calls of_drm_find_panel (in drm_panel.c, would-be the new drm_panel module)
>
> And while drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() is possibly going to disappear at
> the end of my series, moving drm_panel.c to its own module would make the
> series non-build-bisectable, which would be very annoying.
>
> However there seem to be no calls from the drm module to
> drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge(), so we could move it out as well. What about
> a series doing, in this order:
>
> - move drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() from the drm module to the
> drm_kms_helper module
> - move drm_panel.c to a new drm_panel module
> - Main change: embed a drm_bridge into every panel
> - convert drivers to stop using the panel_bridge, hopefully removing all
> calls to drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge()
> - remove drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge()
Ah, no, that won't work. There would be a circular module dependency loop
later on when we embed a drm_bridge into evern drm_panel: indeed at that
point drm_panel will use the atomic and probe helpers to implement the
embedded drm_bridge, resulting in:
* the panel_bridge code in bridge/panel.c [drm_kms_helper module]
already depends on the drm_panel.c code (it manipulates a drm_panel, OK)
* additionally, the drm_panel.c code, in order to create a drm_bridge,
will depend on the helpers in drm_atomic_helper and drm_probe_helper
code [drm_kms_helper module]
The loop is only between kernel modules (.ko), not in actual code. So I
think this revised plan should work (the 2nd bullet is key):
- move drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() from the drm module to
bridge/panel.c [currently drm_kms_helper module]
- move bridge/panel.o to a new drm_panel_bridge module (NEW)
- move drm_panel.c to a new drm_panel module
- Main change: embed a drm_bridge into every panel
- convert drivers to stop using the panel_bridge, hopefully removing all
calls to drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge()
- remove drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge() and all the drm_panel_bridge module
What do you think about it?
Luca
--
Luca Ceresoli, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-01 14:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-14 14:05 [PATCH 00/11] drm/panel: add a panel_bridge to every panel Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 01/11] drm: of: drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge: simplify freeing the remote node pointer Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-17 8:21 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 02/11] drm: of: drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge: simplify error return paths Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-17 8:23 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 03/11] drm: of: drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge: prioritize the bridge, not the panel Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:20 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-17 8:26 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-17 12:23 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-24 8:16 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-24 14:15 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 04/11] drm/panel: merge the drm_kms_helper module into the drm module Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:13 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-17 8:31 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-17 12:27 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-24 7:48 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-24 14:16 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-27 14:17 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-09-01 12:40 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-09-01 14:30 ` Luca Ceresoli [this message]
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 05/11] drm/bridge: panel: add a panel_bridge to every panel Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:25 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-17 14:07 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-17 8:42 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-17 12:30 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 06/11] drm/bridge: tc358767: don't create a panel_bridge Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:17 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 07/11] drm/bridge: waveshare-dsi: " Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 08/11] drm/mcde: dsi: simplify device_node management using scoped for_each variant Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:19 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-17 8:43 ` Maxime Ripard
2026-08-17 12:25 ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-17 12:34 ` Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 09/11] drm/mcde: dsi: don't create a panel_bridge Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:24 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-17 12:23 ` Linus Walleij
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 10/11] drm/bridge: fsl-ldb: " Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:18 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-14 14:05 ` [PATCH 11/11] drm/bridge: samsung-dsim: " Luca Ceresoli
2026-08-14 14:23 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-14 14:13 ` [PATCH 00/11] drm/panel: add a panel_bridge to every panel Luca Ceresoli
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