From: Nick Alcock <nick.alcock@oracle.com>
To: Eugene Loh <eugene.loh@oracle.com>
Cc: Nick Alcock <nick.alcock@oracle.com>, <dtrace@lists.linux.dev>,
<dtrace-devel@oss.oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/14] Fix stack-skip counts for caller and stackdepth
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2025 14:03:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jz57zxvn.fsf@esperi.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6cdb7118-e678-57e7-adff-a74a1ff39e19@oracle.com> (Eugene Loh's message of "Mon, 16 Jun 2025 15:21:09 -0400")
On 16 Jun 2025, Eugene Loh verbalised:
> On 6/13/25 10:33, Nick Alcock wrote:
>
>>> Note that we declare the skip count volatile. The compiler might
>>> optimize code that uses the STACK_SKIP value, but we will subsequently
>>> perform relocations that adjust this value.
>> ... why doesn't this apply to every other extern global variable in
>> get_bvar()? They're all similarly relocated...
>
> Right. There is potentially a broader problem. But we simply do not have evidence of misbehavior in other cases. Ruggedizing
> other cases could be the subject of a different patch.
Aha, OK. I was just wondering if there was some extra reason.
> The problem in this case is that the compiler seems to assume &symbol!=0, which is reasonable except that we violate that behavior
> for our relocation tricks.
I wonder where the code for that is... plenty of symbols have value
zero.
But, really...
> Consider the C code:
>
> uint64_t dt_bvar_stackdepth(const dt_dctx_t *dctx)
> {
> uint32_t bufsiz = (uint32_t) (uint64_t) (&STKSIZ);
> char *buf = dctx->mem + (uint64_t)(&STACK_OFF);
Hm...
extern uint64_t STACK_SKIP;
So we encode information about the stack size and skip value by encoding
it in the *address* of the variable? Is there some reason we don't use
its value? unlike the stack offset, we're *using* it as a value, not an
address...
> uint64_t retv;
> volatile uint64_t skip = (uint64_t)(&STACK_SKIP);
>
> retv = bpf_get_stack(dctx->ctx,
> buf,
> bufsiz,
> skip & BPF_F_SKIP_FIELD_MASK);
>
> if (skip)
> return retv / sizeof(uint64_t) - 1; // branch "A"
> return retv / sizeof(uint64_t); // branch "B"
> }
>
> If you omit "volatile", the compiler assumes &STACK_SKIP!=0. The emitted code has:
(which is a reasonable assumption if not freestanding, I'd say. Why
don't we compile BPF code with -ffreestanding? BPF is almost the
*definition* of a freestanding environment...)
> *) no run-time "if (skip)" check
>
> *) no code for branch "B"
>
> *) only code for branch "A"
>
> If you include "volatile", however, the compiler caches &STACK_SKIP on
> the BPF stack and later performs a run-time check on its value to
> correctly execute either branch "A" or branch "B".
This feels very mucvh like a workaround to me. Does compiling BPF with
-ffreestanding help?
I mean it fixes a bug, so I suppose it should go in if nothing else
works, but using volatile is almost always a desperate sticking plaster
and this feels like one of those occasions to me.
--
NULL && (void)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-19 13:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-05-22 18:01 [PATCH 01/14] Fix stack-skip counts for caller and stackdepth eugene.loh
2025-05-22 18:01 ` [PATCH 02/14] Add stack-skip frame count for rawtp provider eugene.loh
2025-06-13 14:35 ` Nick Alcock
2025-05-22 18:01 ` [PATCH 03/14] Test: remove unnecessary "unstable" tag eugene.loh
2025-06-13 14:35 ` [DTrace-devel] " Nick Alcock
2025-05-22 18:01 ` [PATCH 04/14] Test: caller and stackdepth tests for fbt provider eugene.loh
2025-06-13 14:40 ` [DTrace-devel] " Nick Alcock
2025-06-16 19:43 ` Eugene Loh
2025-06-25 4:14 ` Kris Van Hees
2025-05-22 18:01 ` [PATCH 05/14] Test: caller and stackdepth tests for dtrace provider eugene.loh
2025-06-13 14:42 ` Nick Alcock
2025-05-22 18:01 ` [PATCH 06/14] Test: caller and stackdepth tests for rawtp provider eugene.loh
2025-06-13 14:45 ` Nick Alcock
2025-05-22 18:01 ` [PATCH 07/14] Test: caller and stackdepth tests for cpc provider eugene.loh
2025-06-13 14:48 ` [DTrace-devel] " Nick Alcock
2025-05-22 18:01 ` [PATCH 08/14] Test: caller and stackdepth tests for ip provider eugene.loh
2025-06-13 14:51 ` [DTrace-devel] " Nick Alcock
2025-06-17 3:38 ` Eugene Loh
2025-06-25 4:15 ` Kris Van Hees
2025-05-22 18:01 ` [PATCH 09/14] Test: caller and stackdepth tests for profile provider eugene.loh
2025-06-13 14:52 ` [DTrace-devel] " Nick Alcock
2025-05-22 18:01 ` [PATCH 10/14] Test: caller and stackdepth tests for sched provider eugene.loh
2025-06-13 14:52 ` Nick Alcock
2025-05-22 18:01 ` [PATCH 11/14] Test: caller and stackdepth tests for proc provider eugene.loh
2025-06-13 14:53 ` Nick Alcock
2025-06-15 17:50 ` Eugene Loh
2025-06-19 12:52 ` Nick Alcock
2025-06-25 4:18 ` Kris Van Hees
2025-05-22 18:01 ` [PATCH 12/14] Test: caller and stackdepth tests for rawfbt provider eugene.loh
2025-06-13 14:54 ` [DTrace-devel] " Nick Alcock
2025-06-17 23:17 ` Eugene Loh
2025-05-22 18:01 ` [PATCH 13/14] Test: caller and stackdepth tests for io provider eugene.loh
2025-06-13 14:56 ` [DTrace-devel] " Nick Alcock
2025-05-22 18:01 ` [PATCH 14/14] Test: caller and stackdepth tests for lockstat provider eugene.loh
2025-06-13 14:57 ` Nick Alcock
2025-06-13 14:33 ` [PATCH 01/14] Fix stack-skip counts for caller and stackdepth Nick Alcock
2025-06-16 19:21 ` Eugene Loh
2025-06-19 13:03 ` Nick Alcock [this message]
2025-06-19 16:20 ` Kris Van Hees
2025-06-19 16:32 ` Kris Van Hees
2025-06-23 14:04 ` Nick Alcock
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