fio problems

fio problems

[Danny Kukawka]

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Hi,

we try to run fio against raw RBD devices on a ceph cluster. Here are
the parameter we use to run fio:

[test]
filename=/dev/rbd0
time_based
runtime=3h
rw=randrw
rwmixread=80
rwmixwrite=20
blocksize_range=4k-1024k
ioengine=libaio
iodepth=64
direct=1
verify=crc32c-intel
verify_fatal=1
verify_async=16
lockfile=exclusive

We see some problems:

1) fio reports higher READ speeds than the used 1Gbit network interface
could provide (the interface isn't even working to capacity in this
situation). That happens if we use --rwmixread/rwmixwrite:

 READ: io=91560MB, aggrb=156206KB/s, minb=159955KB/s,
        maxb=159955KB/s, mint=600216msec, maxt=600216msec
 WRITE: io=22944MB, aggrb=39143KB/s, minb=40083KB/s, maxb=40083KB/s,
        mint=600216msec, maxt=600216msec

2) fio 2.0.6 and also the current git tends to fail with this error:

   fio 2.0.6
   Starting 1 process
   fio: iolog.c:242: log_io_piece: Assertion `ipo->len == __ipo->len'
   failed.:08m:31s]

It seems that we can prevent it when we use the --size parameter, but we
would like to prevent the usage of the parameter, if possible

3) fio always reports minb == maxb and aggrb < minb as you can see
above. From my understanding this would be false info.

4) If we define rw=randrw, rwmixread=80, rwmixwrite=20 and the verify
options, what does the READ process if there isn't enough data written
out yet? Which data does READ read and verify?

Thanks and Regards,

Danny
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 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH
  Maxfeldstrasse 5, D-90409 Nuremberg, Germany
  GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg)


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Re: fio problems

[Jens Axboe]

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On 2012-04-04 00:39, Danny Kukawka wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> we try to run fio against raw RBD devices on a ceph cluster. Here are
> the parameter we use to run fio:
> 
> [test]
> filename=/dev/rbd0
> time_based
> runtime=3h
> rw=randrw
> rwmixread=80
> rwmixwrite=20
> blocksize_range=4k-1024k
> ioengine=libaio
> iodepth=64
> direct=1
> verify=crc32c-intel
> verify_fatal=1
> verify_async=16
> lockfile=exclusive
> 
> We see some problems:
> 
> 1) fio reports higher READ speeds than the used 1Gbit network interface
> could provide (the interface isn't even working to capacity in this
> situation). That happens if we use --rwmixread/rwmixwrite:
> 
>  READ: io=91560MB, aggrb=156206KB/s, minb=159955KB/s,
>         maxb=159955KB/s, mint=600216msec, maxt=600216msec
>  WRITE: io=22944MB, aggrb=39143KB/s, minb=40083KB/s, maxb=40083KB/s,
>         mint=600216msec, maxt=600216msec

OK that's very odd. How are these numbers matching up with watching
vmstat 1 while the job runs? I've never seen fio over-report before.

> 2) fio 2.0.6 and also the current git tends to fail with this error:
> 
>    fio 2.0.6
>    Starting 1 process
>    fio: iolog.c:242: log_io_piece: Assertion `ipo->len == __ipo->len'
>    failed.:08m:31s]
> 
> It seems that we can prevent it when we use the --size parameter, but we
> would like to prevent the usage of the parameter, if possible

Strangely, I had two reports of this today. Did a bit of digging, and
it's due to this commit:

commit c04e4661e4da3b6079f415897e4507cf8e610c54
Author: Daniel Ehrenberg <dehrenberg@google.com>
Date:   Fri Mar 16 18:54:15 2012 +0100

    time_based: Avoid restarting main I/O loop

I think what is going on here is that your job is time based, and when
we fail getting a new offset, we clear the offset bitmap. But we could
have verifies pending at this point, we'd need to prune this out as
well.

> 3) fio always reports minb == maxb and aggrb < minb as you can see
> above. From my understanding this would be false info.

Yeah, it's a cosmetic thing. I've never really taken the time to look at
that...

> 4) If we define rw=randrw, rwmixread=80, rwmixwrite=20 and the verify
> options, what does the READ process if there isn't enough data written
> out yet? Which data does READ read and verify?

If you have a split workload like that and are also doing verifies, the
read can be either a read verify or just an offset read. In the latter
case, it doesn't verify anything. It'll just read a block (or multiple
blocks) at some offset instead of writing it.

- -- 
Jens Axboe

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Re: fio problems

[Jens Axboe]

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On 2012-04-04 13:50, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> 2) fio 2.0.6 and also the current git tends to fail with this error:
> 
>>    fio 2.0.6
>>    Starting 1 process
>>    fio: iolog.c:242: log_io_piece: Assertion `ipo->len == __ipo->len'
>>    failed.:08m:31s]
> 
>> It seems that we can prevent it when we use the --size parameter, but we
>> would like to prevent the usage of the parameter, if possible
> 
> Strangely, I had two reports of this today. Did a bit of digging, and
> it's due to this commit:
> 
> commit c04e4661e4da3b6079f415897e4507cf8e610c54
> Author: Daniel Ehrenberg <dehrenberg@google.com>
> Date:   Fri Mar 16 18:54:15 2012 +0100
> 
>     time_based: Avoid restarting main I/O loop
> 
> I think what is going on here is that your job is time based, and when
> we fail getting a new offset, we clear the offset bitmap. But we could
> have verifies pending at this point, we'd need to prune this out as
> well.

Actually, since it happens so rarely, I think the better approach is
just to ignore it. I've updated fio to reflect that.

- -- 
Jens Axboe

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Re: fio problems

[Danny Kukawka]

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Am 04.04.2012 22:15, schrieb Jens Axboe:
> On 2012-04-04 13:50, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>> 2) fio 2.0.6 and also the current git tends to fail with this error:
> 
>>>    fio 2.0.6
>>>    Starting 1 process
>>>    fio: iolog.c:242: log_io_piece: Assertion `ipo->len == __ipo->len'
>>>    failed.:08m:31s]
> 
>>> It seems that we can prevent it when we use the --size parameter, but we
>>> would like to prevent the usage of the parameter, if possible
> 
>> Strangely, I had two reports of this today. Did a bit of digging, and
>> it's due to this commit:
> 
>> commit c04e4661e4da3b6079f415897e4507cf8e610c54
>> Author: Daniel Ehrenberg <dehrenberg@google.com>
>> Date:   Fri Mar 16 18:54:15 2012 +0100
> 
>>     time_based: Avoid restarting main I/O loop
> 
>> I think what is going on here is that your job is time based, and when
>> we fail getting a new offset, we clear the offset bitmap. But we could
>> have verifies pending at this point, we'd need to prune this out as
>> well.
> 
> Actually, since it happens so rarely, I think the better approach is
> just to ignore it. I've updated fio to reflect that.

Btw. I can suppress the error if I add --size with a high number e.g.
--size=1p.

Danny
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Danny Kukawka
 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH
  Maxfeldstrasse 5, D-90409 Nuremberg, Germany
  GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg)




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Re: fio problems

[Jens Axboe]

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On 2012-04-05 03:24, Danny Kukawka wrote:
> Am 04.04.2012 22:15, schrieb Jens Axboe:
>> On 2012-04-04 13:50, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>> 2) fio 2.0.6 and also the current git tends to fail with this error:
>>
>>>>    fio 2.0.6
>>>>    Starting 1 process
>>>>    fio: iolog.c:242: log_io_piece: Assertion `ipo->len == __ipo->len'
>>>>    failed.:08m:31s]
>>
>>>> It seems that we can prevent it when we use the --size parameter, but we
>>>> would like to prevent the usage of the parameter, if possible
>>
>>> Strangely, I had two reports of this today. Did a bit of digging, and
>>> it's due to this commit:
>>
>>> commit c04e4661e4da3b6079f415897e4507cf8e610c54
>>> Author: Daniel Ehrenberg <dehrenberg@google.com>
>>> Date:   Fri Mar 16 18:54:15 2012 +0100
>>
>>>     time_based: Avoid restarting main I/O loop
>>
>>> I think what is going on here is that your job is time based, and when
>>> we fail getting a new offset, we clear the offset bitmap. But we could
>>> have verifies pending at this point, we'd need to prune this out as
>>> well.
>>
>> Actually, since it happens so rarely, I think the better approach is
>> just to ignore it. I've updated fio to reflect that.
> 
> Btw. I can suppress the error if I add --size with a high number e.g.
> --size=1p.

It'll still happen eventually, it just takes longer. But the fix is
committed, so you should be fine going forward.

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Re: fio problems

[Danny Kukawka]

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Am 04.04.2012 21:50, schrieb Jens Axboe:
> On 2012-04-04 00:39, Danny Kukawka wrote:
>> Hi,
> 
>> we try to run fio against raw RBD devices on a ceph cluster. Here are
>> the parameter we use to run fio:
> 
>> [test]
>> filename=/dev/rbd0
>> time_based
>> runtime=3h
>> rw=randrw
>> rwmixread=80
>> rwmixwrite=20
>> blocksize_range=4k-1024k
>> ioengine=libaio
>> iodepth=64
>> direct=1
>> verify=crc32c-intel
>> verify_fatal=1
>> verify_async=16
>> lockfile=exclusive
> 
>> We see some problems:
> 
>> 1) fio reports higher READ speeds than the used 1Gbit network interface
>> could provide (the interface isn't even working to capacity in this
>> situation). That happens if we use --rwmixread/rwmixwrite:
> 
>>  READ: io=91560MB, aggrb=156206KB/s, minb=159955KB/s,
>>         maxb=159955KB/s, mint=600216msec, maxt=600216msec
>>  WRITE: io=22944MB, aggrb=39143KB/s, minb=40083KB/s, maxb=40083KB/s,
>>         mint=600216msec, maxt=600216msec
> 
> OK that's very odd. How are these numbers matching up with watching
> vmstat 1 while the job runs? I've never seen fio over-report before.

I will take a look at it and let you know.

>> 3) fio always reports minb == maxb and aggrb < minb as you can see
>> above. From my understanding this would be false info.
> 
> Yeah, it's a cosmetic thing. I've never really taken the time to look at
> that...

It's not cosmetic if you need correct values for your tests ...

>> 4) If we define rw=randrw, rwmixread=80, rwmixwrite=20 and the verify
>> options, what does the READ process if there isn't enough data written
>> out yet? Which data does READ read and verify?
> 
> If you have a split workload like that and are also doing verifies, the
> read can be either a read verify or just an offset read. In the latter
> case, it doesn't verify anything. It'll just read a block (or multiple
> blocks) at some offset instead of writing it.

That would may explain the fio over-report in 1).

We create a new RBD on the cluster, mount it on the client and let fio
start it's test on the RBD. The RBD is completely empty at this moment.
Not sure what happens if fio reads some random offset that may isn't
filled with data at this moment. Or is fio only reading from a prior
written block/offset?

Danny
-- 
Danny Kukawka
 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH
  Maxfeldstrasse 5, D-90409 Nuremberg, Germany
  GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg)


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Re: fio problems

[Jens Axboe]

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On 2012-04-05 02:51, Danny Kukawka wrote:
>>> 3) fio always reports minb == maxb and aggrb < minb as you can see
>>> above. From my understanding this would be false info.
>>
>> Yeah, it's a cosmetic thing. I've never really taken the time to look at
>> that...
> 
> It's not cosmetic if you need correct values for your tests ...

Most people don't use the group reporting, but yes of course it should
be correct. I have checked in a patch to correct it. The min/max group
report bandwidth were off by 1.024, the aggregate was correct (and
matched the "real" data output).

>>> 4) If we define rw=randrw, rwmixread=80, rwmixwrite=20 and the verify
>>> options, what does the READ process if there isn't enough data written
>>> out yet? Which data does READ read and verify?
>>
>> If you have a split workload like that and are also doing verifies, the
>> read can be either a read verify or just an offset read. In the latter
>> case, it doesn't verify anything. It'll just read a block (or multiple
>> blocks) at some offset instead of writing it.
> 
> That would may explain the fio over-report in 1).
> 
> We create a new RBD on the cluster, mount it on the client and let fio
> start it's test on the RBD. The RBD is completely empty at this moment.
> Not sure what happens if fio reads some random offset that may isn't
> filled with data at this moment. Or is fio only reading from a prior
> written block/offset?

OK, if we back up a bit. If you have a workload that is rwmixread=50,
hence doing equal amount of random reads and writes. Then the job will
read 50% of the disk, and write 50% of the disk. None of the read and
write offsets will be the same. So if the drive is initially empty, you
are reading non-initialized data.

Same thing is true for your workload. So some of the reads you see will
be the verifies, but some of them will also be for parts of the disk
that you will then never write.

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Jens Axboe

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Re: fio problems

[Danny Kukawka]

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Am 05.04.2012 16:42, schrieb Jens Axboe:
> On 2012-04-05 02:51, Danny Kukawka wrote:
>>>> 3) fio always reports minb == maxb and aggrb < minb as you can see
>>>> above. From my understanding this would be false info.
>>>
>>> Yeah, it's a cosmetic thing. I've never really taken the time to look at
>>> that...
> 
>> It's not cosmetic if you need correct values for your tests ...
> 
> Most people don't use the group reporting, but yes of course it should
> be correct. I have checked in a patch to correct it. The min/max group
> report bandwidth were off by 1.024, the aggregate was correct (and
> matched the "real" data output).
> 
>>>> 4) If we define rw=randrw, rwmixread=80, rwmixwrite=20 and the verify
>>>> options, what does the READ process if there isn't enough data written
>>>> out yet? Which data does READ read and verify?
>>>
>>> If you have a split workload like that and are also doing verifies, the
>>> read can be either a read verify or just an offset read. In the latter
>>> case, it doesn't verify anything. It'll just read a block (or multiple
>>> blocks) at some offset instead of writing it.
> 
>> That would may explain the fio over-report in 1).
> 
>> We create a new RBD on the cluster, mount it on the client and let fio
>> start it's test on the RBD. The RBD is completely empty at this moment.
>> Not sure what happens if fio reads some random offset that may isn't
>> filled with data at this moment. Or is fio only reading from a prior
>> written block/offset?
> 
> OK, if we back up a bit. If you have a workload that is rwmixread=50,
> hence doing equal amount of random reads and writes. Then the job will
> read 50% of the disk, and write 50% of the disk. None of the read and
> write offsets will be the same. So if the drive is initially empty, you
> are reading non-initialized data.
> 
> Same thing is true for your workload. So some of the reads you see will
> be the verifies, but some of them will also be for parts of the disk
> that you will then never write.

We solved it now by running an initial fio write over the full RBD
before running any verify tests:

 fio --name=fill-rbd --filename=/dev/rbd1 --direct=1 --rw=write \
     --bs=4M --size=25g --ioengine=libaio --iodepth=128

Now we don't see problems with over-reporting fio anymore.

Danny
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  GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg)


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Re: fio problems

[Jens Axboe]

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On 2012-04-05 09:30, Danny Kukawka wrote:
>>> We create a new RBD on the cluster, mount it on the client and let fio
>>> start it's test on the RBD. The RBD is completely empty at this moment.
>>> Not sure what happens if fio reads some random offset that may isn't
>>> filled with data at this moment. Or is fio only reading from a prior
>>> written block/offset?
>>
>> OK, if we back up a bit. If you have a workload that is rwmixread=50,
>> hence doing equal amount of random reads and writes. Then the job will
>> read 50% of the disk, and write 50% of the disk. None of the read and
>> write offsets will be the same. So if the drive is initially empty, you
>> are reading non-initialized data.
>>
>> Same thing is true for your workload. So some of the reads you see will
>> be the verifies, but some of them will also be for parts of the disk
>> that you will then never write.
> 
> We solved it now by running an initial fio write over the full RBD
> before running any verify tests:
> 
>  fio --name=fill-rbd --filename=/dev/rbd1 --direct=1 --rw=write \
>      --bs=4M --size=25g --ioengine=libaio --iodepth=128
> 
> Now we don't see problems with over-reporting fio anymore.

Excellent, so it was down to reading un-written data. Thanks for
confirming.

- -- 
Jens Axboe

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Usage of group reporting

[Lucian Grijincu]

On 4/5/12 7:42 AM, "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
> Most people don't use the group reporting


Why do you say that?

For example I'm trying to find those parameters (direct-io, fadvise,
number of threads, libaio/mmap/sync, etc.) that give an overall "best
performance" (whatever that means) on a simulated workload.

I'm using group reporting, because I want numbers for the entire system,
not for an individual thread.

Am I using "fio" wrong or is "fio" mostly used for other kinds of
benchmarking?
--
Lucian

Re: Usage of group reporting

[Jens Axboe]

On 2012-04-05 12:29, Lucian Grijincu wrote:
> 
> On 4/5/12 7:42 AM, "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk> wrote:
>> Most people don't use the group reporting
> 
> 
> Why do you say that?
> 
> For example I'm trying to find those parameters (direct-io, fadvise,
> number of threads, libaio/mmap/sync, etc.) that give an overall "best
> performance" (whatever that means) on a simulated workload.
> 
> I'm using group reporting, because I want numbers for the entire system,
> not for an individual thread.
> 
> Am I using "fio" wrong or is "fio" mostly used for other kinds of
> benchmarking?

I think there's a confusion of termininology here, it's my fault. So
when I said group reporting, I meant the group status reporting. The
part that shows up at the end of the reporting:

Run status group 0 (all jobs):
   READ: io=2369KB, aggrb=1024KB/s, minb=1024KB/s, maxb=1024KB/s, mint=2313msec, maxt=2313msec

This is what you control with the new_group, forcing fio to group
multiple jobs together for reporting.

You are probably referring to group_reporting, which is used quite
extensively. That is not the one I meant :-)

-- 
Jens Axboe