* Re: [PATCH 2/2] ci: bump ubuntu image version for static-analysis job
2026-07-26 8:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] ci: bump ubuntu image version for static-analysis job Jeff King
@ 2026-08-07 10:24 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-08-07 16:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-08-07 16:47 ` Elijah Newren
2026-08-08 17:31 ` SZEDER Gábor
2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Patrick Steinhardt @ 2026-08-07 10:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jeff King; +Cc: git, tnyman, Taylor Blau, Junio C Hamano, Elijah Newren
On Sun, Jul 26, 2026 at 04:39:05AM -0400, Jeff King wrote:
> We recently ran into a case[1] where old versions of coccinelle ran very
> slowly, but newer ones are fine. The version we use in GitHub's CI was
> the old slow version, leading to timeouts of the static-analysis job.
>
> We get the old version because we ask for the ubuntu-22.04 image. That
> has coccinelle 1.1.1, but the "fast" improvement is in coccinelle 1.3.0,
> specifically their 58619b8fe (break up envs for e1 & e2, 2024-08-18).
I have been wondering about slow Coccinelle for a while now. Making
things faster via a simple version upgrade is great, as it comes almost
for free.
But that being said, we also have a bunch of Coccinelle rules nowadays,
and my gut feeling tells me that there's a bunch of them that aren't
useful anymore. "refs", "object_id", "the_repository",
"git_config_number", "index-compatibility" and "context_fn_ctx" all look
like files that we could probably just get rid of because we have long
done the migrations, and it's unlikely anybody still has patches that
use the pre-migration variants.
They'd of course require a bit of a deeper look, but that could be
another way to speed up Coccinelle for us. Even though I cannot say for
sure by how much, I didn't give it a test.
Thanks!
Patrick
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* Re: [PATCH 2/2] ci: bump ubuntu image version for static-analysis job
2026-08-07 10:24 ` Patrick Steinhardt
@ 2026-08-07 16:16 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-08-10 5:38 ` Patrick Steinhardt
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Junio C Hamano @ 2026-08-07 16:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Patrick Steinhardt; +Cc: Jeff King, git, tnyman, Taylor Blau, Elijah Newren
Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
> They'd of course require a bit of a deeper look, but that could be
> another way to speed up Coccinelle for us. Even though I cannot say for
> sure by how much, I didn't give it a test.
Another benefit is that it would reduce the programmer's burden, as
it is not immediately apparent which rules are still relevant.
I wonder if we can easily define the exit criteria when we introduce
a new rule and document them, immediately next to the rules.
You said "refs, object_id, the_repository, ... all look like we have
long done with the migrations"; in retrospect, would it have been
easily doable for those who introduced these rules to describe how
we would declare "now migration is done"? If so, perhaps a good
step forward may be to update tools/coccinelle/README to add such a
rule.
... goes and looks ...
The readme file clearly states that transformations needed for
migrations are *not* regularly run. Is it possible that we have
these rules you mentioned misclassified?
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2026-08-07 16:16 ` Junio C Hamano
@ 2026-08-10 5:38 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-08-10 17:52 ` Junio C Hamano
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From: Patrick Steinhardt @ 2026-08-10 5:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Junio C Hamano; +Cc: Jeff King, git, tnyman, Taylor Blau, Elijah Newren
On Fri, Aug 07, 2026 at 09:16:49AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
>
> > They'd of course require a bit of a deeper look, but that could be
> > another way to speed up Coccinelle for us. Even though I cannot say for
> > sure by how much, I didn't give it a test.
>
> Another benefit is that it would reduce the programmer's burden, as
> it is not immediately apparent which rules are still relevant.
>
> I wonder if we can easily define the exit criteria when we introduce
> a new rule and document them, immediately next to the rules.
>
> You said "refs, object_id, the_repository, ... all look like we have
> long done with the migrations"; in retrospect, would it have been
> easily doable for those who introduced these rules to describe how
> we would declare "now migration is done"? If so, perhaps a good
> step forward may be to update tools/coccinelle/README to add such a
> rule.
>
> ... goes and looks ...
>
> The readme file clearly states that transformations needed for
> migrations are *not* regularly run. Is it possible that we have
> these rules you mentioned misclassified?
For all I can see, both our Makefile and Meson simply take all
Coccinelle files we have, concatenate and run those rules against our
whole codebase. So I don't see any kind of classification at all?
Ah, no, you're right. We have the ".pending" suffix that we do treat
special. We only have a single one of those with "config_fn_ctx".
Arguably, many of the others should've been classified as pending, too.
But I think it's quite easy to miss that we even treat these kinds of
files special.
Taking a step back, I do have to wonder whether the Cocci files have
been adding any kind of value in the first place. I myself introduced
some of them in contexts where I made sweeping changes to our APIs, so
that any in-flight topics can be trivially adjusted via Coccinelle. But
I very much doubt that anyone ever used those to adapt their in-flight
patch series at all.
So maybe we should just not do that anymore?
Patrick
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* Re: [PATCH 2/2] ci: bump ubuntu image version for static-analysis job
2026-08-10 5:38 ` Patrick Steinhardt
@ 2026-08-10 17:52 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-08-11 5:02 ` Patrick Steinhardt
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Junio C Hamano @ 2026-08-10 17:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Patrick Steinhardt; +Cc: Jeff King, git, tnyman, Taylor Blau, Elijah Newren
Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
> Taking a step back, I do have to wonder whether the Cocci files have
> been adding any kind of value in the first place. I myself introduced
> some of them in contexts where I made sweeping changes to our APIs, so
> that any in-flight topics can be trivially adjusted via Coccinelle. But
> I very much doubt that anyone ever used those to adapt their in-flight
> patch series at all.
>
> So maybe we should just not do that anymore?
We still do catch when somebody writes "if (a == NULL)", no?
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* Re: [PATCH 2/2] ci: bump ubuntu image version for static-analysis job
2026-08-10 17:52 ` Junio C Hamano
@ 2026-08-11 5:02 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-09-05 13:44 ` Jeff King
0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Patrick Steinhardt @ 2026-08-11 5:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Junio C Hamano; +Cc: Jeff King, git, tnyman, Taylor Blau, Elijah Newren
On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 10:52:21AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
>
> > Taking a step back, I do have to wonder whether the Cocci files have
> > been adding any kind of value in the first place. I myself introduced
> > some of them in contexts where I made sweeping changes to our APIs, so
> > that any in-flight topics can be trivially adjusted via Coccinelle. But
> > I very much doubt that anyone ever used those to adapt their in-flight
> > patch series at all.
> >
> > So maybe we should just not do that anymore?
>
> We still do catch when somebody writes "if (a == NULL)", no?
Yes! What I was trying to say is that we maybe shouldn't add Cocci files
for temporary migrations anymore, but still keep (and extend) them for
evertyhing where we want to consistently catch antipatterns going
forward.
Overall I have a feeling that I'm overthinking this though :) Maybe it
ultimately doesn't matter too much and we just continue what we're doing
and then clean up every once in a while when too much cruft has
accumulated.
Patrick
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* Re: [PATCH 2/2] ci: bump ubuntu image version for static-analysis job
2026-08-11 5:02 ` Patrick Steinhardt
@ 2026-09-05 13:44 ` Jeff King
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Jeff King @ 2026-09-05 13:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Patrick Steinhardt
Cc: Junio C Hamano, git, tnyman, Taylor Blau, Elijah Newren
On Tue, Aug 11, 2026 at 07:02:42AM +0200, Patrick Steinhardt wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 10:52:21AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> > Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
> >
> > > Taking a step back, I do have to wonder whether the Cocci files have
> > > been adding any kind of value in the first place. I myself introduced
> > > some of them in contexts where I made sweeping changes to our APIs, so
> > > that any in-flight topics can be trivially adjusted via Coccinelle. But
> > > I very much doubt that anyone ever used those to adapt their in-flight
> > > patch series at all.
> > >
> > > So maybe we should just not do that anymore?
> >
> > We still do catch when somebody writes "if (a == NULL)", no?
>
> Yes! What I was trying to say is that we maybe shouldn't add Cocci files
> for temporary migrations anymore, but still keep (and extend) them for
> evertyhing where we want to consistently catch antipatterns going
> forward.
>
> Overall I have a feeling that I'm overthinking this though :) Maybe it
> ultimately doesn't matter too much and we just continue what we're doing
> and then clean up every once in a while when too much cruft has
> accumulated.
FWIW, I'd be happy to avoid coccinelle for transitions. The most
important thing is for transitions to be brought to the developer's
attention at all, so we don't quietly produce broken programs or
continue adding callers of interfaces we're trying to get rid of.
But bringing attention is often done trivially via the compiler (e.g.,
changing names or interfaces). Coccinelle can further suggest the actual
fix, but most of the time that fix is either obvious, or easily
explained in the commit message (and I feel like if any project can do
so, we should be able to assume people can use pickaxe/blame to find the
source of a change).
So coccinelle can save some work in these cases, but I think it is a net
loss overall compared to both the effort in writing the semantic
patches, as well as the operational headaches.
I do think there's still enough value in the enforcement of rules that
can't easily be caught by the compiler. Style bits like "a == NULL" are
an obvious example, but I think we have some "we offer functions X and
Y, but you should usually use X unless you have a good reason". Though
maybe even some of those can be simplified (stuff like oidclr() should
be preferred over hashclr(), but maybe we are at a point where hashclr()
can become a private function?).
-Peff
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* Re: [PATCH 2/2] ci: bump ubuntu image version for static-analysis job
2026-07-26 8:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] ci: bump ubuntu image version for static-analysis job Jeff King
2026-08-07 10:24 ` Patrick Steinhardt
@ 2026-08-07 16:47 ` Elijah Newren
2026-08-08 17:31 ` SZEDER Gábor
2 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Elijah Newren @ 2026-08-07 16:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jeff King; +Cc: git, tnyman, Taylor Blau, Junio C Hamano
On Sun, Jul 26, 2026 at 1:39 AM Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
>
> We recently ran into a case[1] where old versions of coccinelle ran very
> slowly, but newer ones are fine. The version we use in GitHub's CI was
> the old slow version, leading to timeouts of the static-analysis job.
>
> We get the old version because we ask for the ubuntu-22.04 image. That
> has coccinelle 1.1.1, but the "fast" improvement is in coccinelle 1.3.0,
> specifically their 58619b8fe (break up envs for e1 & e2, 2024-08-18).
>
> Bumping to ubuntu-25.10 would be enough to get that new version. But I
> don't see any need to ask for a specific version at all. We originally
> used a specific version because coccinelle wasn't available in ubuntu
> 20.04, so we pinned to 18.04 in d051ed77ee (.github/workflows/main.yml:
> run static-analysis on bionic, 2021-02-08). Later that got bumped in
> ef46584831 (ci: update 'static-analysis' to Ubuntu 22.04, 2022-08-23)
> when 18.04 support was dropped.
>
> It seems like the absence of coccinelle was a blip in 20.04, and we can
> just stick with "latest" going forward.
>
> I tested the result on GitHub's CI. I bumped the matching line in the
> GitLab definition, but didn't have a simple means of testing (but it's
> such a trivial change nothing could go wrong, right?).
>
> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/git/20260724091152.27794-2-tnyman@openai.com/
>
> Signed-off-by: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
> ---
> .github/workflows/main.yml | 4 ++--
> .gitlab-ci.yml | 2 +-
> 2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/.github/workflows/main.yml b/.github/workflows/main.yml
> index 85cfedf5b0..205325eb33 100644
> --- a/.github/workflows/main.yml
> +++ b/.github/workflows/main.yml
> @@ -460,8 +460,8 @@ jobs:
> if: needs.ci-config.outputs.enabled == 'yes'
> env:
> jobname: StaticAnalysis
> - CI_JOB_IMAGE: ubuntu-22.04
> - runs-on: ubuntu-22.04
> + CI_JOB_IMAGE: ubuntu-latest
> + runs-on: ubuntu-latest
> concurrency:
> group: static-analysis-${{ github.ref }}
> cancel-in-progress: ${{ needs.ci-config.outputs.skip_concurrent == 'yes' }}
> diff --git a/.gitlab-ci.yml b/.gitlab-ci.yml
> index 1c4d04da9d..0242283c3c 100644
> --- a/.gitlab-ci.yml
> +++ b/.gitlab-ci.yml
> @@ -227,7 +227,7 @@ test:fuzz-smoke-tests:
> - ./ci/run-build-and-minimal-fuzzers.sh
>
> static-analysis:
> - image: ubuntu:22.04
> + image: ubuntu:latest
> stage: analyze
> needs: [ ]
> variables:
> --
> 2.55.0.742.gf2bff09aa6
Makes sense to me; looks good.
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2026-07-26 8:39 ` [PATCH 2/2] ci: bump ubuntu image version for static-analysis job Jeff King
2026-08-07 10:24 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-08-07 16:47 ` Elijah Newren
@ 2026-08-08 17:31 ` SZEDER Gábor
2026-09-05 13:52 ` Jeff King
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From: SZEDER Gábor @ 2026-08-08 17:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jeff King; +Cc: git, tnyman, Taylor Blau, Junio C Hamano, Elijah Newren
On Sun, Jul 26, 2026 at 04:39:05AM -0400, Jeff King wrote:
> We recently ran into a case[1] where old versions of coccinelle ran very
> slowly, but newer ones are fine. The version we use in GitHub's CI was
> the old slow version, leading to timeouts of the static-analysis job.
>
> We get the old version because we ask for the ubuntu-22.04 image. That
> has coccinelle 1.1.1, but the "fast" improvement is in coccinelle 1.3.0,
> specifically their 58619b8fe (break up envs for e1 & e2, 2024-08-18).
I've built Docker images of various Coccinelle versions [1] years ago,
and seeing this issue I've updated those images with more recent base
image and Coccinelle versions.
Using these to run 'make coccicheck' on 630cf86933, i.e. 'seen' on or
around 2026-07-14, which contained a024a5818c (branch: add
--delete-merged <branch>, 2026-07-14) with those problematic loop
counter variables I got the following results:
- 1.1.1: 1437.78user 56.66system 2:10.29elapsed 1146%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 223896maxresident)k
- 1.2.0: ctrl-c after 2.5h. The bulk of the work was done in about
10 minutes, but processing 'builtin/branch.c' seemed to
hang forever.
- 1.3.1: 6532.81user 106.75system 9:35.04elapsed 1154%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 635592maxresident)k
So my Coccinelle 1.1.1 didn't hang, moreover, it was about 4.5 times
faster than 1.3.1. I got similar runtime differences between 1.1.1
and 1.3.1 when checking e.g. v2.55.0 or current master; in these cases
1.2.0 didn't hang, but took about the same time as 1.3.1.
Am I doing something wrong? Or is everyone else is doing something
wrong? :)
[1] https://hub.docker.com/r/szeder/coccinelle/tags
On a somewhat related note, for a while now we've been unnecessarily
installing all the dependencies of the "build and test" jobs
(compiler, build systems, apache, p4, jgit, etc.) for the various
static analysis and the 'documentation' CI jobs as well.
I think this is because 707d2f2fe8 (CI: use "$runs_on_pool", not
"$jobname" to select packages & config, 2021-11-23) started installing
all those dependencies for jobs using 'ubuntu-latest', including the
'documentation' job as well, though this side-effect was not mentioned
in the commit message. The 'StaticAnalysis' and 'sparse' jobs were
not affected at the time, because they were using a specific Ubuntu
version, but then 0178420b9c (github-actions: run gcc-8 on
ubuntu-20.04 image, 2022-11-25) came along and changed the pattern
matching $runs_on_pool from 'ubuntu-latest' to 'ubuntu-*'.
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2026-08-08 17:31 ` SZEDER Gábor
@ 2026-09-05 13:52 ` Jeff King
0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Jeff King @ 2026-09-05 13:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SZEDER Gábor; +Cc: git, tnyman, Taylor Blau, Junio C Hamano, Elijah Newren
On Sat, Aug 08, 2026 at 07:31:57PM +0200, SZEDER Gábor wrote:
> Using these to run 'make coccicheck' on 630cf86933, i.e. 'seen' on or
> around 2026-07-14, which contained a024a5818c (branch: add
> --delete-merged <branch>, 2026-07-14) with those problematic loop
> counter variables I got the following results:
>
> - 1.1.1: 1437.78user 56.66system 2:10.29elapsed 1146%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 223896maxresident)k
>
> - 1.2.0: ctrl-c after 2.5h. The bulk of the work was done in about
> 10 minutes, but processing 'builtin/branch.c' seemed to
> hang forever.
>
> - 1.3.1: 6532.81user 106.75system 9:35.04elapsed 1154%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 635592maxresident)k
>
> So my Coccinelle 1.1.1 didn't hang, moreover, it was about 4.5 times
> faster than 1.3.1. I got similar runtime differences between 1.1.1
> and 1.3.1 when checking e.g. v2.55.0 or current master; in these cases
> 1.2.0 didn't hang, but took about the same time as 1.3.1.
>
> Am I doing something wrong? Or is everyone else is doing something
> wrong? :)
I'd meant to circle back to this and get an answer, but ultimately...I
don't have one. I was easily able to reproduce the forever-hang behavior
building locally, and even bisected it. However IIRC I couldn't get
1.1.1 to build at all, so my bisect started a bit forward of that.
So I'm a little curious why we get different results, but not enough to
sink a bunch more time into building and timing coccinelle myself.
Ultimately I think we'll end up on newer versions in the long run as old
versions eventually become unavailable / uncompilable on newer
platforms. So given mixed signals about timing, I think I'd still prefer
moving forward in time as a general tie-breaker.
> On a somewhat related note, for a while now we've been unnecessarily
> installing all the dependencies of the "build and test" jobs
> (compiler, build systems, apache, p4, jgit, etc.) for the various
> static analysis and the 'documentation' CI jobs as well.
>
> I think this is because 707d2f2fe8 (CI: use "$runs_on_pool", not
> "$jobname" to select packages & config, 2021-11-23) started installing
> all those dependencies for jobs using 'ubuntu-latest', including the
> 'documentation' job as well, though this side-effect was not mentioned
> in the commit message. The 'StaticAnalysis' and 'sparse' jobs were
> not affected at the time, because they were using a specific Ubuntu
> version, but then 0178420b9c (github-actions: run gcc-8 on
> ubuntu-20.04 image, 2022-11-25) came along and changed the pattern
> matching $runs_on_pool from 'ubuntu-latest' to 'ubuntu-*'.
It has always felt a little nuts to me that all of these CI jobs start
with a vanilla base image and then "apt install" a bunch of packages.
Surely there is some mechanism for caching that intermediate state as an
image, at which point it is "free" to use it as the base for all of the
jobs, whether they need all of it or not (modulo some extra bytes in the
image, but to me that is way cheaper than the run-time cost of
downloading and installing packages).
I know Docker has some support for automatically caching intermediate
image states, but I don't think any of that applies here. From its
perspective, the all of our ci scripts are running and mutating the
container.
-Peff
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