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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: Sean <seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Terminology question about remote branches.
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2007 17:22:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85k5sbfhnw.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070804104851.162d7e00.seanlkml@sympatico.ca> (Sean's message of "Sat\, 4 Aug 2007 10\:48\:51 -0400")

Sean <seanlkml@sympatico.ca> writes:

> On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 16:01:55 +0200
> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> So --track does not set up a tracking branch, but makes a local
>> _following_ branch _refer_ to a tracking branch.
>
> Sure, that's one way to describe it; perhaps it would be best if
> we switched to that nomenclature in the documentation.

Not according to my current understanding, but that can, of course,
change again in the next few hours.  As far as I understand right now,
such a branch indeed tracks a remote branch (and not a remote tracking
branch), it just does not track it recklessly: it has a head of its
own, and it won't use git-fetch -f for updating it.

> It's not a problem, you could just add an appropriate [branch...] section
> in your .git/config.   Actually looking at a typical branch section
> is even more confusing to me:
>
>     $ git branch fudge origin/fix1
>
> adds this to the .git/config:
>
>     [branch "fudge"]
>         remote = origin
>         merge = refs/heads/fix1
>
> The config file does not record the remote-tracking-branch, instead
> it explicitly records the remote repository information.  So it sure
> appears that if you add the --track option, it _does_ make the local
> branch track a remote directly.  Thus it's hard to call it anything
> but what you labelled it, a local tracking-branch.

Yes, it seems --track does track after all.  Just more cautiously than
a remote tracking branch does.

> While I thought i had a handle on this, i'm now officially more
> confused than you;

Good.  It means that I may not be a complete idiot.  It may also mean
that the documentation can be improved in places.  With a lot of
"grep" and fine-combing I realized that quite a bit of the information
_is_ "available" (and some conflicting information as well).

This is one reason why I would prefer to have something like a typical
Texinfo manual, at least on the organisational level: a manual is
supposed to present a single connected view to the available
documentation.  And the information for git is scattered through a
bunch of mostly disconnected files.

If you want to see a more staggering example of this approach, take a
look at the "guilt" documentation.  It consists only of the man pages
for the individual commands, and then some few README-like files which
mostly say something like "guilt is just like quilt, or like
Mercurial's patch sets".  That's rather extreme as far as
user-accessible information goes.  git has a few more generally useful
files explaining underlying concepts, but they still are basically
thrown into one large self-service heap, not a coherent document.

> hopefully someone with knowledge of the guts of Git will speak up.

I think I am slowly getting it, thanks to Lars and others.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-04 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-04 10:55 Terminology question about remote branches David Kastrup
2007-08-04 12:02 ` Jeff King
2007-08-04 12:36   ` David Kastrup
2007-08-04 13:07     ` Lars Hjemli
2007-08-04 13:38       ` David Kastrup
2007-08-04 14:03         ` Lars Hjemli
2007-08-04 14:11           ` David Kastrup
2007-08-04 14:25             ` David Kastrup
2007-08-04 14:35               ` Lars Hjemli
2007-08-04 15:09                 ` David Kastrup
2007-08-04 15:48                   ` Lars Hjemli
2007-08-05  9:24                   ` Jeff King
2007-08-04 14:50               ` Julian Phillips
2007-08-04 17:00       ` David Kastrup
2007-08-04 17:19         ` Julian Phillips
2007-08-04 18:00           ` David Kastrup
2007-08-04 22:56             ` Theodore Tso
2007-08-05  7:06               ` David Kastrup
2007-08-05  9:21     ` Jeff King
2007-08-05  9:29       ` David Kastrup
2007-08-05  9:32         ` Jeff King
2007-08-05  9:44           ` David Kastrup
2007-08-05  9:46             ` Jeff King
2007-08-04 12:14 ` Jakub Narebski
2007-08-04 13:29 ` Sean
2007-08-04 14:01   ` David Kastrup
2007-08-04 14:48     ` Sean
2007-08-04 15:22       ` David Kastrup [this message]
2007-08-05 10:10       ` Jeff King
2007-08-05 10:05     ` Jeff King
2007-08-05 10:56       ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-08-05 11:02         ` Jeff King
2007-08-05 11:38           ` David Kastrup
2007-08-05 11:52             ` Jeff King
2007-08-05 12:12               ` David Kastrup
2007-08-05 12:14                 ` Jeff King
2007-08-05 15:48                 ` Theodore Tso
2007-08-05 16:23                   ` David Kastrup
2007-08-05 16:27                   ` Randal L. Schwartz
2007-08-05 16:40                 ` Sean
2007-08-05 16:45                   ` Jeff King
2007-08-05  7:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2007-08-05 10:07   ` Steffen Prohaska
2007-08-05 14:23   ` Julian Phillips
2007-08-05 15:09     ` David Kastrup
2007-08-05 15:24       ` Julian Phillips

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