From: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>
Cc: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
578764@bugs.debian.org, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:37:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sk6n4426.fsf@frosties.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1004221445310.7232@xanadu.home> (Nicolas Pitre's message of "Thu, 22 Apr 2010 15:03:07 -0400 (EDT)")
Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net> writes:
> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
>> I have never ever needed anything but
>>
>> git commit -a
>> git commit <file> <file> ...
>
> When I was using CVS/SVN that's what I thought too.
>
>> I do commit often and commit early and I start and finish one thing
>> before I start another. Also I keep my files small so they do one thing
>> and do it well. Overall that means I don't end up with multiple changes
>> in a single file so I never need to cherry pick changes for a commit.
>
> Good for you. I'm not that disciplined. Hence I often end up working on
> more than one thing in parallel. The index is just so incredibly useful
> in that case. I'm also a big fan of 'git add -e'.
As soon as you do 'git add -e' then you have an index. In that case a
'git commit' would use the index. There would be no change in worflow or
behaviour for you.
>> So I don't think people should be forced to utilize the index. Imho that
>> is a matter of the workflow people use. Some people work better with the
>> index and some people (or projects) don't need it.
>
> Exact. It is therefore not progress to impose some inconvenience to one
> work flow in order to make another one easier. And in this case we're
> talking about the difference between having to type an additional -a vs
> the risk of creating a commit with unexpected content.
Is there a risk? You do get an editor with all the files affected listed
giving you a big fat warning what you are about to commit. Yes I
sometimes do start to commit wrongly too (no matter what RCS used) but
then I just close the editor to abort and commit the things seperately.
>> Alternatively an option to take all changes but only if the index is
>> empty would be helpfull. Then people could define an alias for that or
>> set the option in the config. Other than setting -a that would allow
>> using an index when needed and commit everything in the normal case
>> without having to change the command used to commit.
>
> But you're proposing to change the semantics for that command. And I
> also suspect that you're trying to make the index more hidden while what
> we're actually trying to do is to promote it.
Yes, it would hide the index. But you are not just promoting it. You are
forcing people to always use it, even if only through the -a option.
> What _you_ can do though, is this:
>
> git config --global alias.ci "commit -a"
But then when I accidentally use 'git ci' while having an index the
index gets ignored and all changed files get commited in one big mess.
Given how seldom I need an index (so far never) the risk of using 'git
ci' accidentally is way to high. Same with typing -a. I do it so often
that when I actualy don't want it I will probably type it anyway out of
habbit.
My way would be safe in that it will never ignore an index if there is
one. And if it is a new option then it would not alter the existing
semantic, just add to it. Call the option --smart-a or --a-if-empty.
MfG
Goswin
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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2010-04-22 15:58 ` Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-22 18:37 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-22 19:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-22 19:08 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-04-22 20:37 ` Goswin von Brederlow [this message]
2010-04-22 21:25 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-23 9:03 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 9:31 ` Miles Bader
2010-04-23 16:01 ` Wincent Colaiuta
2010-04-23 20:17 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 20:26 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 20:33 ` Daniel Grace
2010-04-23 21:01 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-24 21:15 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-24 21:40 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-24 22:08 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-24 22:42 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-25 2:47 ` Miles Bader
2010-04-25 3:33 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-23 22:35 ` Matthias Andree
2010-04-24 1:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-04-22 21:28 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-04-22 21:40 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-04-22 21:57 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 9:09 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 9:22 ` Tomas Carnecky
2010-04-23 17:00 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 9:27 ` Matthieu Moy
2010-04-23 9:35 ` Tor Arntsen
2010-04-22 21:48 ` Adam Brewster
2010-04-22 22:27 ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-23 9:15 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 10:39 ` The index (Re: Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added) Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-22 22:38 ` Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added Jon Seymour
2010-04-23 0:04 ` Adam Brewster
2010-04-23 9:25 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 9:14 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 9:39 ` Björn Steinbrink
2010-04-23 11:44 ` Sergei Organov
2010-04-23 11:57 ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-04-23 12:20 ` Sergei Organov
2010-04-23 14:23 ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 18:59 ` Matthias Andree
2010-04-23 19:34 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 22:18 ` Matthias Andree
2010-04-23 22:25 ` Eric Raymond
2010-04-23 23:38 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-24 4:38 ` Eric Raymond
2010-04-24 9:05 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-24 9:09 ` Eric Raymond
2010-04-23 23:26 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-24 13:26 ` Tor Arntsen
2010-04-24 9:40 ` 'commit -a' safety (was: Re: Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added) Jakub Narebski
2010-04-24 9:56 ` 'commit -a' safety Miles Bader
2010-04-24 10:05 ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-24 10:26 ` Jakub Narebski
2010-04-24 13:29 ` Miles Bader
2010-04-24 18:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-25 0:16 ` Jakub Narebski
2010-04-25 2:43 ` Miles Bader
2010-04-24 11:10 ` 'commit -a' safety (was: Re: Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added) Wincent Colaiuta
2010-04-24 11:48 ` 'commit -a' safety Jakub Narebski
2010-04-24 14:28 ` Joey Hess
2010-04-24 15:11 ` Mike Hommey
2010-04-24 16:42 ` 'commit -a' safety (was: Re: Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added) Petr Baudis
2010-04-24 16:59 ` Bug#578764: " Wincent Colaiuta
2010-04-24 17:47 ` Petr Baudis
2010-04-24 18:35 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-24 18:54 ` Petr Baudis
2010-04-24 19:09 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-24 19:35 ` Jacob Helwig
2010-04-24 19:44 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-24 19:57 ` Jacob Helwig
2010-04-24 23:47 ` 'commit -a' safety Jakub Narebski
2010-04-25 1:13 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-04-25 8:01 ` Jakub Narebski
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