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From: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>
To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>
Cc: Goswin von Brederlow <goswin-v-b@web.de>,
	578764@bugs.debian.org, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 20:37:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87wrvzs590.fsf@frosties.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100422155806.GC4801@progeny.tock> (Jonathan Nieder's message of "Thu, 22 Apr 2010 10:58:07 -0500")

Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> writes:

> [topic: making ‘git commit’ more helpful when there are no changes
> registered in the index]
>
> Hi Goswin,
>
> Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>
>> in most (all but git?) RCS a plain 'commit' without any arguments
>> commits all changes (to registered files).
>
> Yes, but they are wrong. :)
>
>> no changes added to commit (use "git add" and/or "git commit -a")
> [...]
>> Imho in most cases where no changes
>> were added people do want to commit all modified files. And if not
>> then exiting the editor to abort is easy enough.
>
> I absent-mindedly type ‘git commit’ having forgotten to update the
> index with my changes fairly often.  Then I add the appropriate
> changes, which is almost never all of them.  I don’t think this is so
> unusual.

Then you would type C-X C-c or :q or whatever exits your editor. No harm
done. Also, as you say below, git can output quite a long list of things
in the message. With my proposed change you would get the list inside
your editor and could scroll through it and check if it can all go as a
single commit or not. Imho doing nothing as it does now is the least
usefull thing to do.

> Starting out, I can see how it would be comforting to people if
> ‘git commit’ would default to -a behavior if they ignore the index.
> That is logically a different operation, though, so it would also send
> a wrong message and make it harder in the long run to get used to the
> interface.
>
> Instead, I think it would be better to focus on making the error
> message more helpful.  Right now there is a screen full of status
> before the advice, which might make it easy to get scared before
> reading it.
>
> Here’s a very rough patch to suppress that screenful.  What do you
> think?

I have never ever needed anything but

git commit -a
git commit <file> <file> ...

I do commit often and commit early and I start and finish one thing
before I start another. Also I keep my files small so they do one thing
and do it well. Overall that means I don't end up with multiple changes
in a single file so I never need to cherry pick changes for a commit.

So I don't think people should be forced to utilize the index. Imho that
is a matter of the workflow people use. Some people work better with the
index and some people (or projects) don't need it.



Alternatively an option to take all changes but only if the index is
empty would be helpfull. Then people could define an alias for that or
set the option in the config. Other than setting -a that would allow
using an index when needed and commit everything in the normal case
without having to change the command used to commit.

MfG
        Goswin

  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-22 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20100422151037.2310.2429.reportbug@frosties.localdomain>
2010-04-22 15:58 ` Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-22 18:37   ` Goswin von Brederlow [this message]
2010-04-22 19:03     ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-22 19:08       ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-04-22 20:37       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-22 21:25         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-23  9:03           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23  9:31             ` Miles Bader
2010-04-23 16:01             ` Wincent Colaiuta
2010-04-23 20:17               ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 20:26                 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 20:33                 ` Daniel Grace
2010-04-23 21:01                 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-24 21:15                   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-24 21:40                     ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-24 22:08                       ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-24 22:42                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-25  2:47                       ` Miles Bader
2010-04-25  3:33                         ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-23 22:35                 ` Matthias Andree
2010-04-24  1:43                 ` Junio C Hamano
2010-04-22 21:28         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-04-22 21:40           ` Matthieu Moy
2010-04-22 21:57             ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23  9:09             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23  9:22               ` Tomas Carnecky
2010-04-23 17:00                 ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23  9:27               ` Matthieu Moy
2010-04-23  9:35               ` Tor Arntsen
2010-04-22 21:48         ` Adam Brewster
2010-04-22 22:27           ` Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-23  9:15             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 10:39               ` The index (Re: Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added) Jonathan Nieder
2010-04-22 22:38           ` Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added Jon Seymour
2010-04-23  0:04             ` Adam Brewster
2010-04-23  9:25             ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23  9:14           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23  9:39         ` Björn Steinbrink
2010-04-23 11:44           ` Sergei Organov
2010-04-23 11:57             ` Sverre Rabbelier
2010-04-23 12:20               ` Sergei Organov
2010-04-23 14:23           ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-04-23 18:59   ` Matthias Andree
2010-04-23 19:34     ` Michael Witten
2010-04-23 22:18       ` Matthias Andree
2010-04-23 22:25         ` Eric Raymond
2010-04-23 23:38           ` Michael Witten
2010-04-24  4:38             ` Eric Raymond
2010-04-24  9:05               ` Michael Witten
2010-04-24  9:09                 ` Eric Raymond
2010-04-23 23:26         ` Michael Witten
2010-04-24 13:26       ` Tor Arntsen
2010-04-24  9:40   ` 'commit -a' safety (was: Re: Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added) Jakub Narebski
2010-04-24  9:56     ` 'commit -a' safety Miles Bader
2010-04-24 10:05       ` Andreas Schwab
2010-04-24 10:26       ` Jakub Narebski
2010-04-24 13:29         ` Miles Bader
2010-04-24 18:23         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-25  0:16           ` Jakub Narebski
2010-04-25  2:43             ` Miles Bader
2010-04-24 11:10     ` 'commit -a' safety (was: Re: Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added) Wincent Colaiuta
2010-04-24 11:48       ` 'commit -a' safety Jakub Narebski
2010-04-24 14:28         ` Joey Hess
2010-04-24 15:11           ` Mike Hommey
2010-04-24 16:42       ` 'commit -a' safety (was: Re: Please default to 'commit -a' when no changes were added) Petr Baudis
2010-04-24 16:59         ` Bug#578764: " Wincent Colaiuta
2010-04-24 17:47           ` Petr Baudis
2010-04-24 18:35         ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-24 18:54           ` Petr Baudis
2010-04-24 19:09             ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-24 19:35             ` Jacob Helwig
2010-04-24 19:44               ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-04-24 19:57                 ` Jacob Helwig
2010-04-24 23:47         ` 'commit -a' safety Jakub Narebski
2010-04-25  1:13         ` Junio C Hamano
2010-04-25  8:01           ` Jakub Narebski

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