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From: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: phillip.wood@dunelm.org.uk, Matt Stark <msta@google.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, ps@pks.im,
	Martin von Zweigbergk <martinvonz@google.com>,
	remo@buenzli.dev, Edwin Kempin <ekempin@google.com>,
	schacon@gmail.com, philipmetzger@bluewin.ch,
	konstantin@linuxfoundation.org, newren@gmail.com, tytso@mit.edu,
	rikingcoding@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] headers: Preserve 'change-id' header in rebase / cherry-pick.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 2026 15:13:39 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adVlc/y8HjvSG8KQ@ubby> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqtstm68to.fsf@gitster.g>

On Tue, Apr 07, 2026 at 09:20:35AM -0700, Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> writes:
> > Well, I said "site-local" and "for some definition of site", and the one
> > I had in mind is that the upstream provides this [default] configuration
> > for clones.  Sure, authors could override this locally, but presumably
> > they wouldn't, and presumably upstreams would check for adherence to
> > their rules.
> 
> This does sound quite sensible.  What you called "site", I called
> "project" in my earlier responses.
> 
> Some projects do already check that the changes are signed off with
> the "Signed-off-by" trailers.  If change-id or original-change-id or
> whatnot are deemed essential to a project, and are expected to be
> formatted in certain ways, the project will certainly validate them.

Cool!  Maybe we can achieve consensus.  Here's a strawman:

 - upstreams publish (where?) a set of policies for

    - change-id
    - original-change-id

   regarding:

    - commit splits
    - commit squashes
    - cherry-picks
    - rebases

 - these policies should reference named hooks that have to be locally
   installed in the clone (that way the upstream can't just cause
   arbitrary remote execution clone-side) -- hooks that can transform
   change IDs

We should probably also have options for cherry-pick and rebase that a
user can use to provide useful context such as "this is a backport to
...", or "this is for <ticket>" (adds change-id).

Hooks could do things like create child tickets, etc.

Punting all semantics to hooks and upstream policies leaves only generic
things to decide, namely: what operations call what hooks.  And that
should leave us nothing to argue passionately over.

> None of that requires us to hide this information in the commit
> object header, by the way.  And indeed, it is easier to validate
> what is in the "git log" output (where optional header elements like
> "encoding" are not shown).

Yes, for sure, this could just be commit message formatting practices
enforced by hooks.  In this case there should be a hook for extracting
change ID(s) from a commit message.

Nico
-- 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-07 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-07  3:13 [PATCH] headers: Preserve 'change-id' header in rebase / cherry-pick Matt Stark
2026-04-07  4:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-07  4:58   ` Nico Williams
2026-04-07  5:02     ` Nico Williams
2026-04-07 14:33       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-07  9:55     ` Phillip Wood
2026-04-07 15:52       ` Nico Williams
2026-04-07 16:20         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-07 20:13           ` Nico Williams [this message]
2026-04-07 14:42     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-04-07  9:41   ` Phillip Wood
2026-04-07 23:28 ` brian m. carlson

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