From: Fedor Sergeev <Fedor.Sergeev@Sun.COM>
To: David Jeske <jeske@google.com>
Cc: git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: why is git destructive by default? (i suggest it not be!)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:01:18 +0400 (Russian Standard Time) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.WNT.1.10.0806241343170.3824@theodor> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <willow-jeske-01l5lTEoFEDjCVta@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, David Jeske wrote:
> This is mostly moot since I've understood that it's easy to set git to never
> GC. I guess I'm curious about why those GC fields would ever be set to anything
> other than never?
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008, David Jeske wrote:
> My philosophy is simple, I never never
> never want to throw away changes, you shouldn't either. Disks are cheaper than
> programmer hours. I can understand wanting to keep things tidy, so I can
> understand ways to correct the 'easily visible changes', and also avoid pushing
> them to other trees, but I don't understand why git needs to delete things.
It looks like you are severely restricting your own way of thinking about
a source code management as a source code backup system only.
While this might be a valid mindset for a gatekeeper on a public
repository it way way restrictive for a developer that wants to have a
system that helps him doing a job.
And, say, for me, for my own job, ability to experiment *safely* and
effectively, ability to try out different histories is the most valuable
asset that git brings to the world of SCMs.
My collegues that were forced to use Mercurial for their job are really
unhappy about Mercurial's habbit of not modifying history at all.
After a certain amount of time just looking at the history of an actively
developed project causes a headache.
When you speak about allowing/disallowing destructive actions you actually
speak about policies.
Different organizations, different repositories have different policies.
And git is very flexible in allowing you to implement all those different
policies as you wish it.
And whether default policy should allow people to experiment freely or not
is a very delicate question, which I would not really have enough courage
to speculate on.
regards,
Fedor.
P.S. Saying all that, I would really like to have an easy way to tie non-default
policies to repositories so it propagates on clones. It is really helpful
in big organizations. But thats another story.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-24 10:48 UTC|newest]
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[not found] ` <jeske@willow=01l5V7waFEDjChmh>
2008-06-24 1:47 ` why is git destructive by default? (i suggest it not be!) David Jeske
2008-06-24 1:47 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 17:11 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-24 17:19 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-24 19:08 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24 20:04 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 21:42 ` Brandon Casey
2008-06-24 22:13 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 22:13 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 22:54 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-24 23:07 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 2:26 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 8:58 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-25 9:14 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26 15:13 ` Brandon Casey
2008-06-24 22:21 ` Steven Walter
2008-06-24 22:21 ` [PATCH] cmd_reset: don't trash uncommitted changes unless told to Steven Walter
2008-06-24 22:31 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 9:12 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-25 9:23 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 9:59 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-25 10:16 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-25 10:24 ` Matthias Kestenholz
2008-06-25 10:46 ` Anton Gladkov
2008-06-25 12:33 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-25 14:49 ` [PATCH] cmd_reset: don't trash uncommitted changes unless toldto Craig L. Ching
2008-06-25 15:18 ` Anton Gladkov
2008-06-25 10:41 ` [PATCH] cmd_reset: don't trash uncommitted changes unless told to Johannes Sixt
2008-06-25 12:38 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-25 13:51 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 17:22 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 19:50 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 20:04 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-25 20:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 20:22 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-25 20:48 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 20:58 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-25 21:24 ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 21:34 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26 1:26 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 20:37 ` Steven Walter
2008-06-25 20:38 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 20:50 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 21:05 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 21:35 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26 5:16 ` Junio C Hamano
[not found] ` <20080627193325.6117@nanako3.lavabit.com>
2008-06-27 22:11 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-28 0:06 ` しらいしななこ
2008-06-28 22:32 ` しらいしななこ
2008-06-29 8:56 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 22:44 ` Petr Baudis
2008-06-26 1:59 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-25 20:09 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26 11:55 ` Björn Steinbrink
2008-06-26 12:07 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-26 12:35 ` Björn Steinbrink
2008-06-26 15:55 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-26 17:49 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-26 12:01 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-06-26 12:09 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-26 12:23 ` David Kastrup
2008-06-25 13:19 ` Ian Hilt
2008-06-26 5:31 ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-06-26 16:15 ` Jon Loeliger
2008-06-25 5:29 ` Johannes Gilger
2008-06-24 20:04 ` why is git destructive by default? (i suggest it not be!) David Jeske
2008-06-25 8:57 ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-24 18:18 ` Brandon Casey
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5V7wbFEDjCX7V@videotron.ca>
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5cKsCFEDjC=91MX@videotron.ca>
2008-06-24 2:17 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-06-24 3:18 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 8:14 ` Lea Wiemann
2008-06-24 3:18 ` David Jeske
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5ciVtFEDjCaD9@videotron.ca>
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5e9cgFEDjCh3F@videotron.ca>
2008-06-24 4:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-06-24 4:40 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 4:40 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 5:24 ` Jan Krüger
[not found] ` <1978205964779154253@unknownmsgid>
2008-06-24 5:20 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-24 6:35 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 7:24 ` Jeff King
2008-06-24 7:31 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 8:16 ` Jeff King
2008-06-24 8:30 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 9:39 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24 8:30 ` David Jeske
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5kv6TFEDjCj8S@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5lTEoFEDjCVta@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>
2008-06-24 10:01 ` Fedor Sergeev [this message]
2008-06-24 10:24 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 13:13 ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-24 7:31 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 6:35 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 7:54 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24 8:08 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 11:22 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24 11:29 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 12:19 ` Rogan Dawes
2008-06-24 12:35 ` Johannes Gilger
2008-06-24 12:46 ` Rogan Dawes
2008-06-24 11:29 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 12:21 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24 12:13 ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24 8:08 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 4:59 Teemu Likonen
[not found] ` <e80d075a0806232201o3933d154he2b570986604c30a@mail.gmail.com>
2008-06-24 5:43 ` Teemu Likonen
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2008-06-24 8:35 Björn Steinbrink
[not found] <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5oEswFEDjCZBN>
[not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5oEsvFEDjCjRW>
2008-06-24 10:42 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 10:42 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 15:29 ` Brandon Casey
2008-06-24 16:41 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 16:41 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 18:55 ` Brandon Casey
2008-06-25 12:20 ` Matthieu Moy
2008-06-25 17:56 ` Jing Xue
2008-06-24 12:21 Olivier Galibert
2008-06-25 18:06 Dmitry Potapov
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