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From: "David Jeske" <jeske@google.com>
To: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
Cc: "Avery Pennarun" <apenwarr@gmail.com>,
	"Nicolas Pitre" <nico@cam.org>,
	git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: why is git destructive by default? (i suggest it not be!)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:31:31 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <willow-jeske-01l5kbGzFEDjCX3J> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080624072455.GF19224@sigill.intra.peff.net>

-- Jeff King wrote:
> I think you are confusing two aspects of history.
>
> There is the commit DAG, which says "at some time T, the files were at
> some state S, and the commit message by author A was M". And those
> commits form a chain so you can see how the state of the files
> progressed. And anything that is reachable through that history will

okay.

> always be kept by git, and you can always go back to any point.

..are you saying that if I reset --hard, or delete a branch ref, or do a
rebase, and then do a GC beyond the GC timeout, that git will NEVER throw away
any of those DAGs? (the actual source diffs committed)

> And the ref history is what gets garbage collected. Most people are fine
> with that, because they care about the actual commit history, and the
> reflog is just a convenient way of saying "oops, what was happening
> yesterday?" But if you really care, then by all means, set the reflog
> expiration much higher.

My (possibly flawed) understanding was that it drops any DAG sections that are
not referenced by valid refs which are older than the GC timeout.

It came from wording like this in the docs:

"The optional configuration variable gc.reflogExpireUnreachable
can be set to indicate how long historical reflog entries which
are not part of the current branch should remain available in
this repository. These types of entries are generally created
as a result of using git commit --amend or git rebase and are the
commits prior to the amend or rebase occurring. Since
these changes are not part of the current project most users
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
will want to expire them sooner. This option defaults to 30 days."

In the above, I resolve "these changes" to "commits prior to the amend" in the
previous sentence.

"git-gc tries very hard to be safe about the garbage it collects.
In particular, it will keep not only objects referenced by your
current set of branches and tags, but also objects referenced by
the index, remote tracking branches, refs saved by
git-filter-branch(1) in refs/original/, or reflogs (which may
references commits in branches that were later amended or rewound)."

In the above, I resolve "keep .. only objects referenced by your current set of
branches and tags [and some other stuff]" to "commmits in the DAG pointed to by
refs [and other stuff]".
Are you saying this GC process will never collect source diffs in the DAG?

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-24  8:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 113+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5V7wbFEDjCX7V>
     [not found] ` <jeske@willow=01l5V7waFEDjChmh>
2008-06-24  1:47   ` why is git destructive by default? (i suggest it not be!) David Jeske
2008-06-24 17:11     ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-24 17:19       ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-24 19:08         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24 20:04           ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 20:04           ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 21:42             ` Brandon Casey
2008-06-24 22:13               ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 22:13               ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 22:54               ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-24 23:07                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25  2:26                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25  8:58                     ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-25  9:14                       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26 15:13                     ` Brandon Casey
2008-06-24 22:21             ` Steven Walter
2008-06-24 22:21               ` [PATCH] cmd_reset: don't trash uncommitted changes unless told to Steven Walter
2008-06-24 22:31                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25  9:12                   ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-25  9:23                     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25  9:59                       ` Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-25 10:16                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-25 10:24                       ` Matthias Kestenholz
2008-06-25 10:46                         ` Anton Gladkov
2008-06-25 12:33                           ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-25 14:49                           ` [PATCH] cmd_reset: don't trash uncommitted changes unless toldto Craig L. Ching
2008-06-25 15:18                             ` Anton Gladkov
2008-06-25 10:41                       ` [PATCH] cmd_reset: don't trash uncommitted changes unless told to Johannes Sixt
2008-06-25 12:38                         ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-25 13:51                           ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 17:22                             ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 19:50                               ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 20:04                                 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-25 20:11                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 20:22                                     ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-25 20:48                                       ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 20:58                                         ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-25 21:24                                           ` Re* " Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 21:34                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26  1:26                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 20:37                                     ` Steven Walter
2008-06-25 20:38                                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 20:50                                     ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 21:05                                       ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-25 21:35                                         ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26  5:16                                           ` Junio C Hamano
     [not found]                                           ` <20080627193325.6117@nanako3.lavabit.com>
2008-06-27 22:11                                             ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-28  0:06                                               ` しらいしななこ
2008-06-28 22:32                                                 ` しらいしななこ
2008-06-29  8:56                                                   ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-25 22:44                                     ` Petr Baudis
2008-06-26  1:59                                       ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-25 20:09                                 ` Junio C Hamano
2008-06-26 11:55                               ` Björn Steinbrink
2008-06-26 12:07                                 ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-26 12:35                                   ` Björn Steinbrink
2008-06-26 15:55                                   ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-26 17:49                                     ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-26 12:01                             ` Matthieu Moy
2008-06-26 12:09                               ` Johannes Schindelin
2008-06-26 12:23                                 ` David Kastrup
2008-06-25 13:19                     ` Ian Hilt
2008-06-26  5:31                     ` Andreas Ericsson
2008-06-26 16:15                       ` Jon Loeliger
2008-06-25  5:29                 ` Johannes Gilger
2008-06-25  8:57           ` why is git destructive by default? (i suggest it not be!) Boaz Harrosh
2008-06-24 18:18       ` Brandon Casey
2008-06-24  1:47   ` David Jeske
     [not found]   ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5V7wbFEDjCX7V@videotron.ca>
     [not found]     ` <willow-jeske-01l5cKsCFEDjC=91MX@videotron.ca>
2008-06-24  2:17       ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-06-24  3:18         ` David Jeske
2008-06-24  3:18         ` David Jeske
2008-06-24  8:14           ` Lea Wiemann
     [not found]         ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5ciVtFEDjCaD9@videotron.ca>
     [not found]           ` <willow-jeske-01l5e9cgFEDjCh3F@videotron.ca>
2008-06-24  4:03             ` Nicolas Pitre
2008-06-24  4:40               ` David Jeske
2008-06-24  5:24                 ` Jan Krüger
2008-06-24  4:40               ` David Jeske
     [not found]               ` <1978205964779154253@unknownmsgid>
2008-06-24  5:20                 ` Avery Pennarun
2008-06-24  6:35                   ` David Jeske
2008-06-24  7:24                     ` Jeff King
2008-06-24  7:31                       ` David Jeske [this message]
2008-06-24  8:16                         ` Jeff King
2008-06-24  8:30                           ` David Jeske
2008-06-24  8:30                           ` David Jeske
2008-06-24  9:39                             ` Jakub Narebski
     [not found]                           ` <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5kv6TFEDjCj8S@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>
     [not found]                             ` <willow-jeske-01l5lTEoFEDjCVta@brm-avmta-1.central.sun.com>
2008-06-24 10:01                               ` Fedor Sergeev
2008-06-24 10:24                                 ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 13:13                                   ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-24  7:31                       ` David Jeske
2008-06-24  6:35                   ` David Jeske
2008-06-24  7:54                   ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24  8:08                     ` David Jeske
2008-06-24  8:08                     ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 11:22                       ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24 11:29                         ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 12:21                           ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24 11:29                         ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 12:19                           ` Rogan Dawes
2008-06-24 12:35                             ` Johannes Gilger
2008-06-24 12:46                               ` Rogan Dawes
2008-06-24 12:13                         ` Jakub Narebski
2008-06-24  4:59 Teemu Likonen
     [not found] ` <e80d075a0806232201o3933d154he2b570986604c30a@mail.gmail.com>
2008-06-24  5:43   ` Teemu Likonen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-24  8:35 Björn Steinbrink
     [not found] <willow-jeske-01l5PFjPFEDjCfzf-01l5oEswFEDjCZBN>
     [not found] ` <willow-jeske-01l5oEsvFEDjCjRW>
2008-06-24 10:42   ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 10:42   ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 15:29     ` Brandon Casey
2008-06-24 16:41       ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 18:55         ` Brandon Casey
2008-06-25 12:20         ` Matthieu Moy
2008-06-25 17:56         ` Jing Xue
2008-06-24 16:41       ` David Jeske
2008-06-24 12:21 Olivier Galibert
2008-06-25 18:06 Dmitry Potapov

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