Git development
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Julia Evans <julia@jvns.ca>
To: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
Cc: "D. Ben Knoble" <ben.knoble@gmail.com>,
	Julia Evans via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org,
	Kristoffer Haugsbakk <kristofferhaugsbakk@fastmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] doc: checkout: rewrite detached HEAD state explanation
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2026 17:17:53 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c5b53752-cfd8-4db0-b6ed-9fdeb83397fb@jvns.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xmqqpkw89yzi.fsf@gitster.g>


On 2026-11-13 4:56 p.m., Junio C Hamano wrote:
> Julia Evans <julia@jvns.ca> writes:
>
>> Of course these are both important audiences, but it's always hard to
>> write a document for two very different audience at the same time. For
>> example, one thing that came up in this thread is that creating commits
>> while not on a branch is a problem for the first person and a good thing
>> for the second person.
> This is a manual page, which means it has to cater to both audiences.
> Unlike a tutorial or guide, we cannot say we target this audience
> primarily and expect the other audience to figure things out
> themselves.

My main goal with this patch series was really to create a new guide 
that we can reference as `git help detached-head` in our advice to help 
users who are confused by detached HEAD state.

I thought that it would make sense to frame it as as improvement 
to`git-checkout` as well (and that the goals of both sections were 
similar enough that you could easily view the content in both ways), but 
maybe those documents actually do have fairly different goals and it's 
too difficult to do that.

I can remove the changes to `git-checkout.adoc` and reframe the series 
from the point of view of "we want to help users who are confused by 
detached HEAD state", it's an easy change.

> To cover the "oops, I got myself into a problem?  I do not even know
> if I am in trouble, or if Git is behaving as expected, and I am
> totally lost.  I do not even know which commands I typed in the last
> 5 minutes got me into this state" situation, manual pages that are
> organized along commands to help quick look-up are a bad match.
>
> Perhaps a FAQ or "survival guide" that targets these inexperienced
> users would help?  Unlike manual pages, guides have more freedom in
> choosing the material covered and the order in which they are
> presented.  I dunno.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-11-13 22:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-07 14:52 [PATCH] doc: checkout: rewrite detached HEAD state explanation Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-07 16:43 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-13 12:54   ` Julia Evans
2026-10-19 14:05   ` Julia Evans
2026-10-19 21:24     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-20 12:52       ` Julia Evans
2026-10-20 13:06         ` Julia Evans
2026-10-07 19:02 ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-10-13 11:48   ` Julia Evans
2026-10-13 12:20     ` Kristoffer Haugsbakk
2026-10-13 12:27       ` Julia Evans
2026-10-13 12:42         ` Julia Evans
2026-10-13 13:01 ` [PATCH v2] " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-14 18:52   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-14 21:10     ` Julia Evans
2026-10-15 20:58 ` [PATCH v3] " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-15 22:39   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-16 14:55     ` Julia Evans
2026-10-16 17:03       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-16 18:35         ` Julia Evans
2026-10-16 19:05           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-10-16 19:03 ` [PATCH v4] " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-10-16 21:10   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-11-07 20:06     ` D. Ben Knoble
2026-11-08  4:25       ` Junio C Hamano
2026-11-09 21:48         ` Julia Evans
2026-11-10  6:46           ` Junio C Hamano
2026-11-10 13:13             ` Julia Evans
2026-11-11 21:45       ` Julia Evans
2026-11-12  1:58         ` Ben Knoble
2026-11-12 15:40         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-11-12 16:37           ` Julia Evans
2026-11-12 19:25             ` Junio C Hamano
2026-11-12 22:45               ` Julia Evans
2026-11-13  2:25                 ` Junio C Hamano
2026-11-13 12:45                   ` Julia Evans
2026-11-13 17:23                     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-11-13 17:57                       ` Julia Evans
2026-11-13 18:43                         ` Julia Evans
2026-11-13 19:49                       ` Julia Evans
2026-11-13 21:56                         ` Junio C Hamano
2026-11-13 22:17                           ` Julia Evans [this message]
2026-10-16 22:02   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-11-11 21:34 ` [PATCH v5] " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget
2026-11-11 23:14   ` Junio C Hamano
2026-11-12  0:01     ` Julia Evans
2026-11-12  4:08     ` Junio C Hamano
2026-11-12 22:47 ` [PATCH v6] " Julia Evans via GitGitGadget

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=c5b53752-cfd8-4db0-b6ed-9fdeb83397fb@jvns.ca \
    --to=julia@jvns.ca \
    --cc=ben.knoble@gmail.com \
    --cc=git@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=gitgitgadget@gmail.com \
    --cc=gitster@pobox.com \
    --cc=kristofferhaugsbakk@fastmail.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox