From: Junio C Hamano <gitster@pobox.com>
To: Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im>
Cc: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>,
Michael Montalbo <mmontalbo@gmail.com>,
git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFH] Why do osx CI jobs so unreliable?
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2026 06:45:12 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <xmqq1pdte7pz.fsf@gitster.g> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aj5ZaZK7xylfs4Xw@pks.im> (Patrick Steinhardt's message of "Fri, 26 Jun 2026 12:50:17 +0200")
Patrick Steinhardt <ps@pks.im> writes:
>> Trying to make the wedged state fail fast and loudly is mostly just
>> punting on the problem. We'd still see spurious failures. We've so far
>> resisted the urge to do any automatic flaky-test retries, preferring
>> instead to just try to root out the flakes. I'm a little hesitant to
>> start now, because I think our strategy has mostly been good so far, and
>> I've seen some horrible counter-examples where flakes and retries become
>> a routine drag on development (and I'm afraid that accommodating flakes
>> might make them more common).
>
> I agree. I'm not a fan of retry logic, as every flaky test may mask an
> actual bug that we haven't fully investigated yet.
Can't agree more.
> I was also wondering whether we can maybe work around the issue by
> increasing the Apache timeout value. That sounds like an easy potential
> solution to try, and from all we've discovered so far it doesn't feel
> like this is something we can address on the Git side.
Thanks, all, for looking into this.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-26 13:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-20 15:33 [RFH] Why do osx CI jobs so unreliable? Michael Montalbo
2026-06-21 21:34 ` Jeff King
2026-06-22 4:42 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-06-22 9:47 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-06-22 9:55 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-06-22 10:29 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-06-26 3:27 ` Michael Montalbo
2026-06-26 5:16 ` Jeff King
2026-06-26 10:50 ` Patrick Steinhardt
2026-06-26 13:45 ` Junio C Hamano [this message]
2026-06-22 5:05 ` Junio C Hamano
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2026-06-19 0:35 Junio C Hamano
2026-06-19 14:03 ` Patrick Steinhardt
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