From: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Senna Tschudin <peter.senna@linux.intel.com>
Cc: igt-dev@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH i-g-t 0/7] igt: Help out coccinelle
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2025 23:39:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aSTQo-enEW5TmAlv@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b1d1fc5f-09d8-4046-b99c-77677a5b2b06@linux.intel.com>
On Mon, Nov 24, 2025 at 07:12:12PM +0100, Peter Senna Tschudin wrote:
> Hi Ville,
>
> I need to see the value proposition before supporting ~2000 lines of churn.
>
> - Can you share the specific Coccinelle scripts that require these changes?
It doesn't matter what you want to change or how. Any time cocci sees
eg. igt_fixture or igt_main it barfs and gives up. So currently you
can't do any kind change with coccinelle to most of tests/.
> - What transformations are you planning that can't work with the current
> syntax?
We need to fix the massive pipe vs. crtc mess. And in general
it would be nice to be able to use cocci over the igt codebase.
Currently that is impossible.
> - Have you attempted these transformations and confirmed current syntax
> blocks them?
Of course I tried, How else do you think I could have
even come up with this stuff?
>
> More importantly: Coccinelle provides mechanisms to handle non-standard
> macros (iterator declarations,
Iterators is exactly what I used. Did you read the
commit messages?
> custom isomorphisms, virtual rules,
> etc.). Have you exhausted all options for teaching Coccinelle about our
> existing macro syntax before concluding we need to modify the codebase
> itself?
"all options" would probably involev rewriting coccinelle. So no, I
haven't exhausted all options. I have spent quite a bit of time with
coccinelle and I'm not aware of any way to teach it about this kind of
non-standard syntax.
If you can pull some kind of rabbit out of your hat please do so,
and stick it into scripts/ so that other people can also use cocci
without spending a month reverse engineering the syntax.
>
> It seems backwards to change ~2000 code locations to accommodate a tool
It doesn't really matter how many places need changing. It's all
done completely mechanically with sed, so entirely trivial.
> when the tool is designed to be configurable for exactly these situations.
It's designed to consume somewhat standard C. igt is not that.
>
> Without concrete examples of problems being solved and evidence that
> Coccinelle-side solutions were explored, this looks like speculative
> refactoring with unclear ROI.
If you need to convince yourself then just try to do some kind of
trivial change over all of tests/ and see how far you can get
without this series and its scripts/iterators.cocci.
--
Ville Syrjälä
Intel
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Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-20 19:14 [PATCH i-g-t 0/7] igt: Help out coccinelle Ville Syrjala
2025-11-20 19:14 ` [PATCH i-g-t 1/7] igt: Make igt_fixture look like an iterator Ville Syrjala
2025-12-03 17:26 ` Kamil Konieczny
2025-11-20 19:14 ` [PATCH i-g-t 2/7] igt: Make igt_subtest_group " Ville Syrjala
2025-11-20 19:14 ` [PATCH i-g-t 3/7] igt: Make igt_main look more like a function Ville Syrjala
2025-11-20 19:14 ` [PATCH i-g-t 4/7] igt: Make igt_simple_main " Ville Syrjala
2025-11-20 19:14 ` [PATCH i-g-t 5/7] igt: Make igt_main*() look like normal function definition Ville Syrjala
2025-11-20 19:14 ` [PATCH i-g-t 6/7] igt: Make igt_simple_main*() " Ville Syrjala
2025-11-20 19:14 ` [PATCH i-g-t 7/7] scripts/cocci: Add iterators.cocci Ville Syrjala
2025-11-24 21:49 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-11-24 22:40 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-12-04 12:56 ` Hajda, Andrzej
2025-12-09 17:00 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-11-20 19:51 ` ✓ Xe.CI.BAT: success for igt: Help out coccinelle Patchwork
2025-11-20 20:05 ` ✗ i915.CI.BAT: failure " Patchwork
2025-11-21 0:40 ` ✓ Xe.CI.Full: success " Patchwork
2025-11-24 18:12 ` [PATCH i-g-t 0/7] " Peter Senna Tschudin
2025-11-24 20:57 ` Jani Nikula
2025-11-24 21:37 ` Peter Senna Tschudin
2025-11-24 21:39 ` Ville Syrjälä [this message]
2025-11-24 21:53 ` Peter Senna Tschudin
2025-11-25 13:49 ` Kamil Konieczny
2025-11-25 8:38 ` ✓ Xe.CI.BAT: success for igt: Help out coccinelle (rev2) Patchwork
2025-11-25 9:10 ` ✓ i915.CI.BAT: " Patchwork
2025-11-25 11:55 ` ✗ Xe.CI.Full: failure " Patchwork
2025-11-25 13:44 ` [PATCH i-g-t 0/7] igt: Help out coccinelle Kamil Konieczny
2025-11-25 17:12 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-11-25 17:53 ` ✗ i915.CI.Full: failure for igt: Help out coccinelle (rev2) Patchwork
2025-12-03 17:38 ` [PATCH i-g-t 0/7] igt: Help out coccinelle Kamil Konieczny
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