From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Dave Young <dyoung-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Harald Hoyer <harald-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
initramfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
chaowang-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] ssh-client: add urandom seeding
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2012 09:35:51 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121012133551.GA9490@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5077A035.30008-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:44:37PM +0800, Dave Young wrote:
> On 10/12/2012 03:58 AM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:16:01AM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> >> Hmm, wouldn't that mean, that the generator is seeded with the _same_ seed on
> >> every reboot?
> >> How is this different from booting with no seed at all?
> >
> > Atleast it can help with kdump where we might regenerate the initramfs
> > upon user config change and capture the new seed.
> >
> > Also kdump does not happen often on the machine. So I guess for once in
> > a while operation it is still better to use random-seed then not using
> > anything at all.
>
>
> For normal boot case, I think something like
> systemd-random-seed-load.service is fine because rootfs is always
> mounted in initramfs. But I'm not sure how to handle the mount issue if
> /var/lib if mounted to another partition.
>
> Or simply add below to pre-pivot hook:
>
> if [ -f /proc/vmcore ]; then
> cat /var/lib/random-seed > /dev/urandom
> else
> if [ -f /sysroot/var/lib/random-seed ]; then
> cat /sysroot/var/lib/random-seed > /dev/urandom
> fi
> fi
>
Or how about doing it rhel6 way. Let kdump module pack in
/var/lib/random-seed in kdump initramfs and if this file is present,
feed it to /dev/urandom.
Thanks
Vivek
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-10-12 13:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-10-11 8:07 [patch 0/2] two ssh-client module fixes dyoung-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA
2012-10-11 8:07 ` [patch 1/2] ssh-client: remove ctty related check dyoung-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA
2012-10-11 8:07 ` [patch 2/2] ssh-client: add urandom seeding dyoung-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA
[not found] ` <20121011080918.972371593-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-11 8:16 ` Harald Hoyer
[not found] ` <50768041.8000803-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-11 8:25 ` Dave Young
[not found] ` <5076826D.2020201-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-11 8:27 ` Dave Young
2012-10-11 19:58 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20121011195823.GD2218-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-12 4:44 ` Dave Young
[not found] ` <5077A035.30008-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-12 13:35 ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
[not found] ` <20121012133551.GA9490-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-13 2:11 ` Dave Young
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