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From: Dave Young <dyoung-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Harald Hoyer <harald-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	initramfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	chaowang-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [patch 2/2] ssh-client: add urandom seeding
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 10:11:08 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5078CDBC.4090202@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121012133551.GA9490-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On 10/12/2012 09:35 PM, Vivek Goyal wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:44:37PM +0800, Dave Young wrote:
>> On 10/12/2012 03:58 AM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 10:16:01AM +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
>>>> Hmm, wouldn't that mean, that the generator is seeded with the _same_ seed on
>>>> every reboot?
>>>> How is this different from booting with no seed at all?
>>>
>>> Atleast it can help with kdump where we might regenerate the initramfs
>>> upon user config change and capture the new seed.
>>>
>>> Also kdump does not happen often on the machine. So I guess for once in 
>>> a while operation it is still better to use random-seed then not using
>>> anything at all.
>>
>>
>> For normal boot case, I think something like
>> systemd-random-seed-load.service is fine because rootfs is always
>> mounted in initramfs. But I'm not sure how to handle the mount issue if
>> /var/lib if mounted to another partition.
>>
>> Or simply add below to pre-pivot hook:
>>
>> if [ -f /proc/vmcore ]; then
>>     cat /var/lib/random-seed > /dev/urandom
>> else
>>     if [ -f /sysroot/var/lib/random-seed ]; then
>>         cat /sysroot/var/lib/random-seed > /dev/urandom
>>     fi
>> fi
>>
> 
> Or how about doing it rhel6 way. Let kdump module pack in
> /var/lib/random-seed in kdump initramfs and if this file is present,
> feed it to /dev/urandom.


Ok, will add this in kdump module instead.

Harald, please ignore patch 2/2 then.

> 
> Thanks
> Vivek



-- 
Thanks
Dave

      parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-13  2:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-11  8:07 [patch 0/2] two ssh-client module fixes dyoung-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA
2012-10-11  8:07 ` [patch 1/2] ssh-client: remove ctty related check dyoung-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA
2012-10-11  8:07 ` [patch 2/2] ssh-client: add urandom seeding dyoung-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA
     [not found]   ` <20121011080918.972371593-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-11  8:16     ` Harald Hoyer
     [not found]       ` <50768041.8000803-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-11  8:25         ` Dave Young
     [not found]           ` <5076826D.2020201-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-11  8:27             ` Dave Young
2012-10-11 19:58         ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]           ` <20121011195823.GD2218-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-12  4:44             ` Dave Young
     [not found]               ` <5077A035.30008-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-12 13:35                 ` Vivek Goyal
     [not found]                   ` <20121012133551.GA9490-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-13  2:11                     ` Dave Young [this message]

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