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From: Seewer Philippe <philippe.seewer-omB+W0Dpw2o@public.gmane.org>
To: David Dillow <dave-i1Mk8JYDVaaSihdK6806/g@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Hannes Reinecke <hare-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
	Victor Lowther
	<victor.lowther-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Bill Nottingham <notting-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	"<initramfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>"
	<initramfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFT PATCH] Delay netroot mounting by 1 second
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:31:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A4084D3.3060705@bfh.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1245704521.3875.31.camel-FqX9LgGZnHWDB2HL1qBt2PIbXMQ5te18@public.gmane.org>

David Dillow wrote:
[snip]
> To check any of these, you'll need a separate utility. bash
> has /dev/tcp/IP/port redirection, but I doubt dash supports that. And
> even then you'll have some klunky trickery in the shell script to add a
> timeout to it. Nor will you be able to work with anything over UDP.
> 
> I think that checking an IP is reachable is sufficient to verify that
> traffic is flowing -- and we have choices there. We can use the server
> IP if it is local, and the gateway IP if not. If we're concerned about
> firewalls blocking ICMP, we could use 'arping' to send ARP requests. If
> there's a way to kick off an arp request with 'ip' or something in /proc
> or /sys, that'd avoid additional bloat, but I'm not aware of one.

Ha! You're brilliant. I completely forgot about ARP.

Including arping isn't such a bad idea. First of all, I tried using
arping to solve the problem some years ago but busybox' arping didn't
have the options required, iputils' arping does. Second, we should
include it anyway since doing DAD in dhcp-script isn't such a bad idea.

Now, I'd use the gateway for detection if possible. But if it isn't 
available, how to guess the server? That logic currently resides in
the root-handlers/-parsers and I'd prefer not to have the root-handler
do the checking.

Regards,
Philippe
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-23  7:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-19 13:45 [RFT PATCH] Delay netroot mounting by 1 second Seewer Philippe
     [not found] ` <4A3B968C.5070600-omB+W0Dpw2o@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-19 14:47   ` Bill Nottingham
     [not found]     ` <20090619144705.GD2514-Zdt1ptygihhQcNjhGXsBABcY2uh10dtjAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-19 14:51       ` Seewer Philippe
     [not found]         ` <4A3BA5EA.3020202-omB+W0Dpw2o@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-19 15:06           ` Bill Nottingham
2009-06-19 15:06           ` Warren Togami
2009-06-19 16:08           ` Victor Lowther
     [not found]             ` <84DF1DC6-5F06-4D6D-91A4-56D996D229B1-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-19 16:19               ` David Dillow
     [not found]                 ` <1245428342.32104.3.camel-FqX9LgGZnHWDB2HL1qBt2PIbXMQ5te18@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-19 16:58                   ` Warren Togami
2009-06-22  7:50                   ` Hannes Reinecke
     [not found]                     ` <4A3F37B8.7050902-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-22 15:10                       ` David Dillow
     [not found]                         ` <1245683450.3544.6.camel-1q1vX8mYZiGLUyTwlgNVppKKF0rrzTr+@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-22 16:17                           ` Seewer Philippe
     [not found]                             ` <4A3FAE9E.5000201-omB+W0Dpw2o@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-22 17:17                               ` David Dillow
     [not found]                                 ` <1245691069.3875.11.camel-FqX9LgGZnHWDB2HL1qBt2PIbXMQ5te18@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-22 18:47                                   ` Seewer Philippe
     [not found]                                     ` <4A3FD1C5.30006-omB+W0Dpw2o@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-22 21:02                                       ` David Dillow
     [not found]                                         ` <1245704521.3875.31.camel-FqX9LgGZnHWDB2HL1qBt2PIbXMQ5te18@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-23  7:31                                           ` Seewer Philippe [this message]
     [not found]                                             ` <4A4084D3.3060705-omB+W0Dpw2o@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-23 16:16                                               ` David Dillow
     [not found]                                                 ` <1245773764.11486.21.camel-FqX9LgGZnHWDB2HL1qBt2PIbXMQ5te18@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-24  6:56                                                   ` Seewer Philippe
     [not found]                                                     ` <4A41CE20.5000809-omB+W0Dpw2o@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-25  3:30                                                       ` David Dillow
     [not found]                                                         ` <1245900638.22064.24.camel-1q1vX8mYZiGLUyTwlgNVppKKF0rrzTr+@public.gmane.org>
2009-06-25  4:37                                                           ` David Dillow
2009-06-22 17:22                               ` David Dillow
2009-06-24  8:29                               ` Bogdan Costescu
2009-06-22 16:06                       ` Seewer Philippe

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