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From: Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
To: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
Cc: intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Async flips
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 09:27:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121031092702.2aecead3@jbarnes-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <84c8a8$6bko2f@orsmga001.jf.intel.com>

On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 15:49:36 +0000
Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:39:09 -0700, Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, 31 Oct 2012 16:26:54 +0100
> > Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:23 PM, Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 01:33:47PM -0500, Jesse Barnes wrote:
> > > >> > The hw supports async flips through the render ring, so why not expose it?
> > > >> > It gives us one more "tear me harder" option we can use in the DDX and
> > > >> > for other cases where simply flipping to the latest buffer is more
> > > >> > important than visual quality.
> > > >>
> > > >> The only reason I can see why anyone would really want async flips is
> > > >> when you're restricted to double buffering. With triple buffering you
> > > >> should be able to override the previous flip w/o tearing.
> > > >>
> > > >> Well, actually if you use the ring based flips, then you can't do the
> > > >> override. My atomic page flip code can do it because it's using mmio
> > > >> flips. There were also other reasons favoring mmio over ring.
> > > >>
> > > >> Once the atomic code is deemed ready, I would suggest we just nuke the
> > > >> ring based flip code (pun intended).
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, I agree.  In fact one of the first versions of the flip code used
> > > > mmio, and I think it's a better way to go.
> > > 
> > > How are we gonna sync up with outstanding rendering before issuing the
> > > flip? If the answer is involves enabling the render irq, I'm not gonna
> > > like it ;-)
> > 
> > Why are you afraid of irqs when rendering is active?  We'll already be
> > awake at those times anyway...
> 
> Because it involves the driver stalling.

Can you elaborate?  I know there are pros & cons to mmio vs ring.
Synchronization is different in each case, and getting the flip to
happen when you want can be tough too in both cases.

-- 
Jesse Barnes, Intel Open Source Technology Center

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-10-31 16:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-30 18:33 [RFC] Async flips Jesse Barnes
2012-10-30 18:33 ` [PATCH 1/2] drm: add flags argument to crtc page_flip callback Jesse Barnes
2012-11-02  4:29   ` Mario Kleiner
2012-11-02 16:00     ` Jesse Barnes
2012-10-30 18:33 ` [PATCH 2/2] drm/i915: add async flip support on gen7 Jesse Barnes
2012-10-31 17:47   ` Eric Anholt
2012-10-31 19:24     ` Jesse Barnes
2012-10-31 12:53 ` [RFC] Async flips Ville Syrjälä
2012-10-31 15:23   ` Jesse Barnes
2012-10-31 15:26     ` Daniel Vetter
2012-10-31 15:39       ` Jesse Barnes
2012-10-31 15:49         ` Chris Wilson
2012-10-31 16:03           ` Daniel Vetter
2012-10-31 16:27           ` Jesse Barnes [this message]
2012-10-31 16:05       ` Ville Syrjälä
2012-10-31 17:44   ` Eric Anholt
2012-10-31 18:51     ` Ville Syrjälä
2012-11-02  4:45       ` Mario Kleiner
2012-11-02  9:29         ` Ville Syrjälä
2012-11-12  3:53           ` Mario Kleiner
2012-11-12 12:04             ` Ville Syrjälä

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