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From: "Volkin, Bradley D" <bradley.d.volkin@intel.com>
To: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>
Cc: "intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org" <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 1/4] drm/i915: Implement a framework for batch buffer pools
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2014 08:30:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140620153039.GA24124@bdvolkin-ubuntu-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53A43664.4060806@linux.intel.com>

On Fri, Jun 20, 2014 at 06:25:56AM -0700, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> 
> On 06/19/2014 06:35 PM, Volkin, Bradley D wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 02:48:29AM -0700, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Brad,
> >>
> >> On 06/18/2014 05:36 PM, bradley.d.volkin@intel.com wrote:
> >>> From: Brad Volkin <bradley.d.volkin@intel.com>
> >>>
> >>> This adds a small module for managing a pool of batch buffers.
> >>> The only current use case is for the command parser, as described
> >>> in the kerneldoc in the patch. The code is simple, but separating
> >>> it out makes it easier to change the underlying algorithms and to
> >>> extend to future use cases should they arise.
> >>>
> >>> The interface is simple: alloc to create an empty pool, free to
> >>> clean it up; get to obtain a new buffer, put to return it to the
> >>> pool. Note that all buffers must be returned to the pool before
> >>> freeing it.
> >>>
> >>> The pool has a maximum number of buffers allowed due to some tests
> >>> (e.g. gem_exec_nop) creating a very large number of buffers (e.g.
> >>> ___). Buffers are purgeable while in the pool, but not explicitly
> >>> truncated in order to avoid overhead during execbuf.
> >>>
> >>> Locking is currently based on the caller holding the struct_mutex.
> >>> We already do that in the places where we will use the batch pool
> >>> for the command parser.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Brad Volkin <bradley.d.volkin@intel.com>
> >>> ---
> >>>
> >>> r.e. pool capacity
> >>> My original testing showed something like thousands of buffers in
> >>> the pool after a gem_exec_nop run. But when I reran with the max
> >>> check disabled just now to get an actual number for the commit
> >>> message, the number was more like 130.  I developed and tested the
> >>> changes incrementally, and suspect that the original run was before
> >>> I implemented the actual copy operation. So I'm inclined to remove
> >>> or at least increase the cap in the final version. Thoughts?
> >>
> >> Some random thoughts:
> >>
> >> Is it strictly necessary to cap the pool size? I ask because it seems to
> >> be introducing a limit where so far there wasn't an explicit one.
> >
> > No, I only added it because there were a huge number of buffers in the
> > pool at one point. But that seems to have been an artifact of my
> > development process, so unless someone says they really want to keep
> > the cap, I'm going to drop it in the next rev.
> 
> Cap or no cap (I am for no cap), but the pool is still "grow only" at 
> the moment, no? So one allocation storm and objects on the pool inactive 
> list end up wasting memory forever.

Oh, so what happens is that when you put() an object back in the pool, we
set obj->madv = I915_MADV_DONTNEED, which should tell the shrinker that it
can drop the backing storage for the object if we need space. When you get()
an object, we set obj->madv = I915_MADV_WILLNEED and get new backing pages.
So the number of objects grows (capped or not), but the memory used can be
controlled.

Brad

> 
> Unless my novice eyes are missing something hidden? But it can't be 
> since then there would have to be a mechanism letting the pool know that 
> some objects got expired.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tvrtko
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-20 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-18 16:36 [RFC 0/4] Command parser batch buffer copy bradley.d.volkin
2014-06-18 16:36 ` [RFC 1/4] drm/i915: Implement a framework for batch buffer pools bradley.d.volkin
2014-06-19  9:48   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2014-06-19 17:35     ` Volkin, Bradley D
2014-06-19 19:07       ` Daniel Vetter
2014-06-20 13:25       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2014-06-20 15:30         ` Volkin, Bradley D [this message]
2014-06-20 15:41           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2014-06-20 16:06             ` Volkin, Bradley D
2014-06-18 16:36 ` [RFC 2/4] drm/i915: Use batch pools with the command parser bradley.d.volkin
2014-06-18 16:52   ` Chris Wilson
2014-06-18 17:49     ` Volkin, Bradley D
2014-06-18 18:11       ` Chris Wilson
2014-06-18 19:59         ` Daniel Vetter
2014-06-18 16:36 ` [RFC 3/4] drm/i915: Add a batch pool debugfs file bradley.d.volkin
2014-06-18 16:36 ` [RFC 4/4] drm/i915: Dispatch the shadow batch buffer bradley.d.volkin

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