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From: Matthew Auld <matthew.auld@intel.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	"Intel Graphics" <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	"Thomas Hellström" <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Luben Tuikov <luben.tuikov@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/3] drm/i915: audit bo->resource usage
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2022 13:06:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <303ae81e-d9af-6912-8cdb-c881015da634@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1392ea7c-88a3-9a56-1ccb-e2f16cd55f72@amd.com>

On 31/08/2022 12:03, Christian König wrote:
> Am 31.08.22 um 12:37 schrieb Matthew Auld:
>> [SNIP]
>>>>
>>>> That hopefully just leaves i915_ttm_shrink(), which is swapping out 
>>>> shmem ttm_tt and is calling ttm_bo_validate() with empty placements 
>>>> to force the pipeline-gutting path, which importantly unpopulates 
>>>> the ttm_tt for us (since ttm_tt_unpopulate is not exported it 
>>>> seems). But AFAICT it looks like that will now also nuke the 
>>>> bo->resource, instead of just leaving it in system memory. My 
>>>> assumption is that when later calling ttm_bo_validate(), it will 
>>>> just do the bo_move_null() in i915_ttm_move(), instead of 
>>>> re-populating the ttm_tt and then potentially copying it back to 
>>>> local-memory?
>>>
>>> Well you do ttm_bo_validate() with something like GTT domain, don't 
>>> you? This should result in re-populating the tt object, but I'm not 
>>> 100% sure if that really works as expected.
>>
>> AFAIK for domains we either have system memory (which uses ttm_tt and 
>> might be shmem underneath) or local-memory. But perhaps i915 is doing 
>> something wrong here, or abusing TTM in some way. I'm not sure tbh.
>>
>> Anyway, I think we have two cases here:
>>
>> - We have some system memory only object. After doing 
>> i915_ttm_shrink(), bo->resource is now NULL. We then call 
>> ttm_bo_validate() at some later point, but here we don't need to copy 
>> anything, but it also looks like ttm_bo_handle_move_mem() won't 
>> populate the ttm_tt or us either, since mem_type == TTM_PL_SYSTEM. It 
>> looks like i915_ttm_move() was taking care of this, but now we just 
>> call ttm_bo_move_null().
>>
>> - We have a local-memory only object, which was evicted to shmem, and 
>> then swapped out by the shrinker like above. The bo->resource is NULL. 
>> However this time when calling ttm_bo_validate() we need to actually 
>> do a copy in i915_ttm_move(), as well as re-populate the ttm_tt. 
>> i915_ttm_move() was taking care of this, but now we just call 
>> ttm_bo_move_null().
>>
>> Perhaps i915 is doing something wrong in the above two cases?
> 
> Mhm, as far as I can see that should still work.
> 
> See previously you should got a transition from SYSTEM->GTT in 
> i915_ttm_move() to re-create your backing store. Not you get 
> NULL->SYSTEM which is handled by ttm_bo_move_null() and then SYSTEM->GTT.

What is GTT here in TTM world? Also I'm not seeing where there is this 
SYSTEM->GTT transition? Maybe I'm blind. Just to be clear, i915 is only 
calling ttm_bo_validate() once when acquiring the pages, and we don't 
call it again, unless it was evicted (and potentially swapped out).

> 
> If you just validated to SYSTEM memory before I think the tt object 
> wouldn't have been populated either.
> 
> Regards,
> Christian.
> 
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Christian.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been considering to replacing the ttm_bo_type with a bunch of 
>>>>> behavior flags for a bo. I'm hoping that this will clean things up 
>>>>> a bit.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Christian.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       caching = i915_ttm_select_tt_caching(obj);
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gem/i915_gem_ttm_move.c 
>>>>>>>> b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gem/i915_gem_ttm_move.c
>>>>>>>> index 9a7e50534b84bb..c420d1ab605b6f 100644
>>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gem/i915_gem_ttm_move.c
>>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gem/i915_gem_ttm_move.c
>>>>>>>> @@ -560,7 +560,7 @@ int i915_ttm_move(struct ttm_buffer_object 
>>>>>>>> *bo, bool evict,
>>>>>>>>       bool clear;
>>>>>>>>       int ret;
>>>>>>>> -    if (GEM_WARN_ON(!obj)) {
>>>>>>>> +    if (GEM_WARN_ON(!obj) || !bo->resource) {
>>>>>>>>           ttm_bo_move_null(bo, dst_mem);
>>>>>>>>           return 0;
>>>>>>>>       }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-31 12:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-24 14:23 [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/3] drm/i915: audit bo->resource usage Luben Tuikov
2022-08-24 14:23 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 2/3] drm/ttm: stop allocating dummy resources during BO creation Luben Tuikov
2022-08-24 14:23 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 3/3] drm/ttm: stop allocating a dummy resource for pipelined gutting Luben Tuikov
2022-08-24 16:21 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.SPARSE: warning for series starting with [1/3] drm/i915: audit bo->resource usage Patchwork
2022-08-24 16:44 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BAT: failure " Patchwork
2022-08-30  7:33 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/3] " Christian König
2022-08-30 10:45   ` Matthew Auld
2022-08-31  8:16     ` Christian König
2022-08-31  9:26       ` Matthew Auld
2022-08-31  9:38         ` Christian König
2022-08-31 10:37           ` Matthew Auld
2022-08-31 11:03             ` Christian König
2022-08-31 12:06               ` Matthew Auld [this message]
2022-08-31 12:35                 ` Christian König
2022-08-31 12:50                   ` Matthew Auld
2022-08-31 13:34                     ` Christian König
2022-08-31 14:53                       ` Matthew Auld
2022-08-31 16:32                         ` Matthew Auld
2022-09-01  8:00                           ` Christian König
2022-09-01 12:52                             ` Matthew Auld
2022-09-01 17:48                       ` Thomas Hellström
2022-09-01  8:43 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BUILD: failure for series starting with [1/3] drm/i915: audit bo->resource usage (rev2) Patchwork
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2022-07-12 11:46 [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 1/3] drm/i915: audit bo->resource usage Christian König
2022-07-13 10:08 ` Matthew Auld

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