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From: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>
To: paulmck@kernel.org, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: rcu <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
	intel-gfx <intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Radoslaw Burny <rburny@google.com>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	cgroups <cgroups@vger.kernel.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [RFC 00/12] locking: Separate lock tracepoints from lockdep/lock_stat (v1)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:27:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52de2e14-33d9-bdda-4b37-3e72ae9954c7@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220210191404.GM4285@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1>

On 2/10/22 14:14, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:13:53AM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 04:32:58PM -0800, Namhyung Kim wrote:
>>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2022 at 1:09 AM Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Feb 08, 2022 at 10:41:56AM -0800, Namhyung Kim wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Eventually I'm mostly interested in the contended locks only and I
>>>>> want to reduce the overhead in the fast path.  By moving that, it'd be
>>>>> easy to track contended locks with timing by using two tracepoints.
>>>> So why not put in two new tracepoints and call it a day?
>>>>
>>>> Why muck about with all that lockdep stuff just to preserve the name
>>>> (and in the process continue to blow up data structures etc..). This
>>>> leaves distros in a bind, will they enable this config and provide
>>>> tracepoints while bloating the data structures and destroying things
>>>> like lockref (which relies on sizeof(spinlock_t)), or not provide this
>>>> at all.
>>> If it's only lockref, is it possible to change it to use arch_spinlock_t
>>> so that it can remain in 4 bytes?  It'd be really nice if we can keep
>>> spin lock size, but it'd be easier to carry the name with it for
>>> analysis IMHO.
>> It's just vile and disgusting to blow up the lock size for convenience
>> like this.
>>
>> And no, there's more of that around. A lot of effort has been spend to
>> make sure spinlocks are 32bit and we're not going to give that up for
>> something as daft as this.
>>
>> Just think harder on the analysis side. Like said; I'm thinking the
>> caller IP should be good enough most of the time.
> Another option is to keep any additional storage in a separate data
> structure keyed off of lock address, lockdep class, or whatever.
>
> Whether or not this is a -good- option, well, who knows?  ;-)

I have suggested that too. Unfortunately, I was replying to an email 
with your wrong email address. So you might not have received it.

Cheers,
Longman


  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-02-10 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-08 18:41 [Intel-gfx] [RFC 00/12] locking: Separate lock tracepoints from lockdep/lock_stat (v1) Namhyung Kim
2022-02-08 18:42 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH 05/12] drm/i915: Protect lockdep functions with #ifdef Namhyung Kim
2022-02-08 18:51   ` Jani Nikula
2022-02-08 19:22     ` Namhyung Kim
2022-02-09 13:49       ` Jani Nikula
2022-02-09 16:27         ` Steven Rostedt
2022-02-09 19:28           ` Namhyung Kim
2022-02-08 19:14 ` [Intel-gfx] [RFC 00/12] locking: Separate lock tracepoints from lockdep/lock_stat (v1) Namhyung Kim
2022-02-09  9:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-09 18:19   ` Waiman Long
2022-02-09 18:29     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-02-09 19:02       ` Waiman Long
2022-02-09 19:17         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-02-09 19:37           ` Waiman Long
2022-02-09 19:22         ` Namhyung Kim
2022-02-09 19:28           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-02-09 19:45             ` Namhyung Kim
2022-02-09 19:56               ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2022-02-09 20:17               ` Waiman Long
2022-02-10  0:27                 ` Namhyung Kim
2022-02-10  2:12                   ` Waiman Long
2022-02-10  9:33                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-02-10  0:32   ` Namhyung Kim
2022-02-10  9:13     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]       ` <20220210191404.GM4285@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1>
2022-02-10 19:27         ` Waiman Long [this message]
     [not found]           ` <20220210201058.GP4285@paulmck-ThinkPad-P17-Gen-1>
2022-02-11  5:57             ` Namhyung Kim
2022-02-11  5:55       ` Namhyung Kim
2022-02-11 10:39         ` Peter Zijlstra

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