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From: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>
To: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] drm/i915: Use exponential backoff for wait_for()
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2017 17:00:00 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5459c8a4-a7f5-fcaf-e588-72689aa9c213@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171121152454.417-1-chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>


On 21/11/2017 15:24, Chris Wilson wrote:
> Instead of sleeping for a fixed 1ms (roughly, depending on timer slack),
> start with a small sleep and exponentially increase the sleep on each
> cycle.
> 
> A good example of a beneficiary is the guc mmio communication channel.
> Typically we expect (and so spin) for 10us for a quick response, but this
> doesn't cover everything and so sometimes we fallback to the millisecond+
> sleep. This incurs a significant delay in time-critical operations like
> preemption (igt/gem_exec_latency), which can be improved significantly by
> using a small sleep after the spin fails.
> 
> We've made this suggestion many times, but had little experimental data
> to support adding the complexity.
> 
> References: 1758b90e38f5 ("drm/i915: Use a hybrid scheme for fast register waits")
> Signed-off-by: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
> Cc: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
> Cc: John Harrison <John.C.Harrison@intel.com>
> Cc: Michał Winiarski <michal.winiarski@intel.com>
> Cc: Ville Syrjala <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
> ---
>   drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_drv.h | 5 ++++-
>   1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_drv.h b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_drv.h
> index 69aab324aaa1..c1ea9a009eb4 100644
> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_drv.h
> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/intel_drv.h
> @@ -50,6 +50,7 @@
>    */
>   #define _wait_for(COND, US, W) ({ \
>   	unsigned long timeout__ = jiffies + usecs_to_jiffies(US) + 1;	\
> +	long wait__ = 1;						\
>   	int ret__;							\
>   	might_sleep();							\
>   	for (;;) {							\
> @@ -62,7 +63,9 @@
>   			ret__ = -ETIMEDOUT;				\
>   			break;						\
>   		}							\
> -		usleep_range((W), (W) * 2);				\
> +		usleep_range(wait__, wait__ * 2);			\
> +		if (wait__ < (W))					\
> +			wait__ <<= 1;					\
>   	}								\
>   	ret__;								\
>   })
> 

I would start the period at 10us since a) <10us is not recommended for 
usleep family, b) most callers specify ms timeouts so <10us poll is 
perhaps an overkill.

Latency sensitive callers like __intel_wait_for_register_us can be 
tweaked at the call site to provide what they want.

For the actual guc mmio send it sounds like it should pass in 20us to 
__intel_wait_for_register_us (referring to John's explanation email) to 
cover 99% of the cases. And then the remaining 1% could be fine with a 
10us delay?

Otherwise we are effectively making _wait_for partially busy looping, or 
whatever the inefficiency in <10us usleep is. I mean, it makes no 
practical difference to make a handful of quick loops there but it feels 
a bit inelegant.

Regards,

Tvrtko
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-11-21 17:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-21 15:24 [PATCH] drm/i915: Use exponential backoff for wait_for() Chris Wilson
2017-11-21 16:29 ` Sagar Arun Kamble
2017-11-21 16:33   ` Chris Wilson
2017-11-21 16:49     ` Sagar Arun Kamble
2017-11-21 20:58       ` Chris Wilson
2017-11-21 16:50 ` ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success for " Patchwork
2017-11-21 17:00 ` Tvrtko Ursulin [this message]
2017-11-21 17:11   ` [PATCH] " Chris Wilson
2017-11-21 17:29     ` Ville Syrjälä
2017-11-21 20:40       ` Chris Wilson
2017-11-21 17:36 ` [PATCH v2] " Chris Wilson
2017-11-21 17:41 ` ✓ Fi.CI.IGT: success for " Patchwork
2017-11-21 18:03 ` ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success for drm/i915: Use exponential backoff for wait_for() (rev2) Patchwork
2017-11-21 19:07 ` ✓ Fi.CI.IGT: " Patchwork
2017-11-21 20:59 ` [PATCH v3] drm/i915: Use exponential backoff for wait_for() Chris Wilson
2017-11-22  7:41   ` Sagar Arun Kamble
2017-11-22  9:36     ` Chris Wilson
2017-11-22  9:47       ` Michal Wajdeczko
2017-11-22 10:03       ` Sagar Arun Kamble
2017-11-24 12:37   ` Michał Winiarski
2017-11-24 14:12     ` Chris Wilson
2017-11-30  3:04       ` John Harrison
2017-11-30  6:19         ` Sagar Arun Kamble
2017-11-30  7:15           ` John Harrison
2017-11-30  7:55             ` Sagar Arun Kamble
2017-12-04 21:51               ` John Harrison
2017-11-21 21:32 ` ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success for drm/i915: Use exponential backoff for wait_for() (rev3) Patchwork
2017-11-21 22:41 ` ✗ Fi.CI.IGT: warning " Patchwork

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