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From: Dmitry Rogozhkin <dmitry.v.rogozhkin@intel.com>
To: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>,
	Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>,
	Tvrtko Ursulin <tursulin@ursulin.net>,
	Intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] Engine utilization tracking
Date: Tue, 9 May 2017 11:11:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7e469211-b709-9656-cf46-90ef6f2fa914@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10f3b14c-f1e3-4918-b8be-4a0938c3aa06@linux.intel.com>



On 5/9/2017 8:51 AM, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>
> On 09/05/2017 16:29, Chris Wilson wrote:
>> On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 04:16:41PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>>
>>> On 09/05/2017 15:26, Chris Wilson wrote:
>>>> On Tue, May 09, 2017 at 03:09:33PM +0100, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
>>>>> From: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@intel.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> By popular customer demand here is the prototype for cheap engine 
>>>>> utilization
>>>>> tracking.
>>>>
>>>> customer and debugfs?
>>>
>>> Well I did write in one of the following paragraphs on this topic.
>>> Perhaps I should have put it in procfs. :) Sysfs API looks
>>> restrictive or perhaps I missed a way to get low level (fops) access
>>> to it.
>>>
>>>>> It uses static branches so in the default off case it really 
>>>>> should be cheap.
>>>>
>>>> Not as cheap (for the off case) as simply sampling RING_HEAD/RING_TAIL
>>>
>>> Off case are three no-op instructions in three places in the irq
>>> tasklet. And a little bit of object size growth, if you worry about
>>> that aspect?
>>
>> It's just how the snowball begins.
>
> We should be able to control it. We also have to consider which one is 
> lighter for this particular use case.
>
>>>> which looks to be the same level of detail. I wrapped all this up in a
>>>> perf interface once up a time...
>>>
>>> How does that work? Via periodic sampling? Accuracy sounds like it
>>> would be proportionate to the sampling frequency, no?
>>
>> Right, and the sampling frequency is under user control (via perf) with
>> a default of around 1000, gives a small systematic error when dealing 
>> with %
>>
>> I included power, interrupts, rc6, frequency (and the statistics but I
>> never used those and dropped them once oa landed), as well as
>> utilisation, just for the convenience of having sane interface :)
>
> Can you resurrect those patches? Don't have to rebase and all but I 
> would like to see them at least.
Mind that the idea behind the requested kind of stats is primary usage 
by the customers in the _product_ environment to track GPU occupancy and 
predict based on this stats whether they can execute something else. 
Which means that 1) debugfs and any kind of debug-like infrastructure is 
really a no-option, 2) any kind of restrictions are no-option (like 
disable RC6 states). Also, there is no need to expose low-level detailed 
information like how many EUs and VMEs were in use - this belongs to the 
debug things. As for now i915 driver exposes only single required 
metric: gt_act_freq_mhz.

> Regards,
>
> Tvrtko
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-09 18:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-09 14:09 [RFC 0/3] Engine utilization tracking Tvrtko Ursulin
2017-05-09 14:09 ` [RFC 1/3] drm/i915: Wrap context schedule notification Tvrtko Ursulin
2017-05-09 14:09 ` [RFC 2/3] drm/i915: Engine busy time tracking Tvrtko Ursulin
2017-05-10 12:41   ` Joonas Lahtinen
2017-05-09 14:09 ` [RFC 3/3] drm/i915: Export engine busy stats in debugfs Tvrtko Ursulin
2017-05-09 18:17   ` Dmitry Rogozhkin
2017-05-10  8:30     ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2017-05-10 15:57       ` Dmitry Rogozhkin
2017-05-09 14:26 ` [RFC 0/3] Engine utilization tracking Chris Wilson
2017-05-09 15:16   ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2017-05-09 15:29     ` Chris Wilson
2017-05-09 15:51       ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2017-05-09 18:11         ` Dmitry Rogozhkin [this message]
2017-05-10  8:38           ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2017-05-10 15:50             ` Dmitry Rogozhkin
2017-05-10 19:45             ` Daniel Vetter
2017-05-12 17:40               ` Dmitry Rogozhkin
2017-05-10 12:31         ` Chris Wilson
2017-05-09 14:51 ` ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success for " Patchwork

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