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From: "Lazar, Lijo" <lijo.lazar@amd.com>
To: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"André Almeida" <andrealmeid@igalia.com>
Cc: airlied@gmail.com, simona@ffwll.ch,
	Raag Jadav <raag.jadav@intel.com>,
	lucas.demarchi@intel.com, rodrigo.vivi@intel.com,
	jani.nikula@linux.intel.com, andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com,
	lina@asahilina.net, michal.wajdeczko@intel.com, "Sharma,
	Shashank" <Shashank.Sharma@amd.com>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	himal.prasad.ghimiray@intel.com,
	aravind.iddamsetty@linux.intel.com, anshuman.gupta@intel.com,
	alexander.deucher@amd.com, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	kernel-dev@igalia.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] drm/amdgpu: Use device wedged event
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 19:14:37 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7fbcacfc-7ade-4ae5-8e2c-b2793a63c1e4@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <18343eaf-7eb3-481c-ad99-9e6fcd837c39@amd.com>



On 12/16/2024 7:09 PM, Christian König wrote:
> Am 16.12.24 um 14:36 schrieb Lazar, Lijo:
>>>>>> I had asked earlier about the utility of this one here. If this is just
>>>>>> to inform userspace that driver has done a reset and recovered, it
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> need some additional context also. We have a mechanism in KFD which
>>>>>> sends the context in which a reset has to be done. Currently, that's
>>>>>> restricted to compute applications, but if this is in a similar
>>>>>> line, we
>>>>>> would like to pass some additional info like job timeout, RAS error
>>>>>> etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>> DRM_WEDGE_RECOVERY_NONE is to inform userspace that driver has done a
>>>>> reset and recovered, but additional data about like which job
>>>>> timeout, RAS error and such belong to devcoredump I guess, where all
>>>>> data is gathered and collected later.
>>>> I think somebody else mentioned it as well that the source of the
>>>> issue, e.g. the PID of the submitting process would be helpful as well
>>>> for supervising daemons which need to restart processes when they
>>>> caused some issue.
>>>>
>>> It was me :) we have a use case that we would need the PID for the
>>> daemon indeed, but the daemon doesn't need to know what's the RAS error
>>> or the job name that timeouted, there's no immediate action to be taken
>>> with this information, contrary to the PID that we need to know.
>>>
>> Regarding devcoredump - it's not done every time. For ex: RAS errors
>> have a different way to identify the source of error, hence we don't
>> need a coredump in such cases.
>>
>> The intention is only to let the user know the reason for reset at a
>> high level, and probably add more things later like the engines or
>> queues that have reset etc.
> 
> Well what is the use case for that? That doesn't looks valuable to me.

It's mostly for in-band telemetry reporting through tools like amd-smi -
 more for admin purpose rather than any debug.

Thanks,
Lijo

> 
> RAS errors should generally be reported to the application who issued
> the submission.
> 
> As a system wide event they are only useful in things like logfiles I think.
> 
> Regards,
> Christian.
> 
>> Thanks,
>> Lijo
>>
>>>> We just postponed adding that till later.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Christian.
>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Lijo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Christian.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-16 16:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-12 19:09 [PATCH 0/1] drm/amdgpu: Use device wedged event André Almeida
2024-12-12 19:09 ` [PATCH 1/1] " André Almeida
2024-12-13  7:34   ` Christian König
2024-12-13  7:46     ` Sharma, Shashank
2024-12-13 14:15     ` André Almeida
2024-12-13 14:36       ` Raag Jadav
2024-12-13 15:56         ` André Almeida
2024-12-16 10:18           ` Christian König
2024-12-16 10:38             ` Lazar, Lijo
2024-12-16 13:04               ` André Almeida
2024-12-16 13:10                 ` Christian König
2024-12-16 13:15                   ` André Almeida
2024-12-16 13:36                     ` Christian König
2024-12-16 13:36                     ` Lazar, Lijo
2024-12-16 13:39                       ` Christian König
2024-12-16 13:44                         ` Lazar, Lijo [this message]
2024-12-16 13:57                     ` Raag Jadav
2024-12-20 13:31   ` kernel test robot
2024-12-20 14:06   ` kernel test robot
2024-12-13 14:10 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Lucas De Marchi
2024-12-13 14:25 ` ✗ Fi.CI.BUILD: failure for " Patchwork

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