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From: Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>
To: Asahi Lina <lina@asahilina.net>
Cc: Lucas De Marchi <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>,
	Raag Jadav <raag.jadav@intel.com>, <airlied@gmail.com>,
	<daniel@ffwll.ch>, <thomas.hellstrom@linux.intel.com>,
	<jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>, <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
	<tursulin@ursulin.net>, <intel-xe@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	<intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	<himal.prasad.ghimiray@intel.com>, <francois.dugast@intel.com>,
	<aravind.iddamsetty@linux.intel.com>, <anshuman.gupta@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] drm: Introduce device wedged event
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2024 16:43:15 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Zt9d4wDYEhRLJ_RZ@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4c9ce216-9762-4dfd-80c7-fe285cae05c2@asahilina.net>

On Sun, Sep 08, 2024 at 11:08:39PM +0900, Asahi Lina wrote:
> 
> 
> On 9/8/24 12:07 AM, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 07, 2024 at 08:38:30PM GMT, Asahi Lina wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 9/6/24 6:42 PM, Raag Jadav wrote:
> >>> Introduce device wedged event, which will notify userspace of wedged
> >>> (hanged/unusable) state of the DRM device through a uevent. This is
> >>> useful especially in cases where the device is in unrecoverable state
> >>> and requires userspace intervention for recovery.
> >>>
> >>> Purpose of this implementation is to be vendor agnostic. Userspace
> >>> consumers (sysadmin) can define udev rules to parse this event and
> >>> take respective action to recover the device.
> >>>
> >>> Consumer expectations:
> >>> ----------------------
> >>> 1) Unbind driver
> >>> 2) Reset bus device
> >>> 3) Re-bind driver
> >>
> >> Is this supposed to be normative? For drm/asahi we have a "wedged"
> >> concept (firmware crashed), but the only possible recovery action is a
> >> full system reboot (which might still be desirable to allow userspace to
> >> trigger automatically in some scenarios) since there is no bus-level
> >> reset and no firmware reload possible.
> > 
> > maybe let drivers hint possible/supported recovery mechanisms and then
> > sysadmin chooses what to do?
> 
> How would we do this? A textual value for the event or something like
> that? ("WEDGED=bus-reset" vs "WEDGED=reboot"?)

Looks like a good idea.

Although in our case it is not just a 'bus-reset' but unbind+bus_reset+rebind,
but that should be okay to have 'bus-reset' kind of text and driver
to document the meaning.

> 
> ~~ Lina

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-09-09 20:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-06  9:42 [PATCH v4 0/3] Introduce DRM device wedged event Raag Jadav
2024-09-06  9:42 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] drm: Introduce " Raag Jadav
2024-09-07 11:38   ` Asahi Lina
2024-09-07 15:07     ` Lucas De Marchi
2024-09-08 14:08       ` Asahi Lina
2024-09-09 20:01         ` Lucas De Marchi
2024-09-10 15:53           ` Raag Jadav
2024-09-10 16:06             ` Lucas De Marchi
2024-09-09 20:43         ` Rodrigo Vivi [this message]
2024-09-09 21:53   ` Matt Roper
2024-09-10 15:49     ` Raag Jadav
2024-09-24  9:37   ` Simona Vetter
2024-09-06  9:42 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] drm/xe: Use " Raag Jadav
2024-09-06  9:42 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] drm/i915: " Raag Jadav
2024-09-06 10:52 ` ✗ Fi.CI.CHECKPATCH: warning for Introduce DRM device wedged event (rev2) Patchwork
2024-09-06 10:52 ` ✗ Fi.CI.SPARSE: " Patchwork
2024-09-06 10:59 ` ✓ Fi.CI.BAT: success " Patchwork
2024-09-10  8:53 ` ✗ Fi.CI.IGT: failure " Patchwork

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