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From: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
To: david laight <david.laight@runbox.com>
Cc: Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	Joonas Lahtinen <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
	Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	Tvrtko Ursulin <tursulin@ursulin.net>,
	Petr Pavlu <petr.pavlu@suse.com>,
	Daniel Gomez <da.gomez@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-modules@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] tracing: move tracing declarations from kernel.h to a dedicated header
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2025 17:37:31 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aS22Oyx5XgAmouqZ@smile.fi.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251201101658.0b5ab68e@pumpkin>

On Mon, Dec 01, 2025 at 10:16:58AM +0000, david laight wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2025 04:50:42 +0200
> Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 30, 2025 at 11:09:25PM +0000, david laight wrote:
> > > On Sun, 30 Nov 2025 21:44:46 +0200
> > > Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com> wrote:  

...

> > kernel.h elimination (in the form it exists right now) is very fruitful.
> > However, you may help with the (say) ioctl.h or whatever you consider
> > really fruitful, we all will thank you (no jokes).
> > 
> 
> This is the first #include path for ioctl.h
> 
> In file included from ../include/asm-generic/ioctl.h:5,
>                  from ./arch/x86/include/generated/uapi/asm/ioctl.h:1,
>                  from ../include/uapi/linux/ioctl.h:5,
>                  from ../include/uapi/linux/random.h:12,
>                  from ../include/linux/random.h:10,
>                  from ../include/linux/nodemask.h:94,
>                  from ../include/linux/numa.h:6,
>                  from ../include/linux/cpumask.h:17,
>                  from ../arch/x86/include/asm/paravirt.h:21,
>                  from ../arch/x86/include/asm/irqflags.h:102,
>                  from ../include/linux/irqflags.h:18,
>                  from ../include/linux/spinlock.h:59,
>                  from ../include/linux/swait.h:7,
>                  from ../include/linux/completion.h:12,
>                  from ../include/linux/crypto.h:15,
>                  from ../arch/x86/kernel/asm-offsets.c:9:
> 
> Get past that and sched.h => processor.h => cpuid/api.h also
> gets you to paravirt.h.
> I suspect a lot of headers get pulled in like that.

And several headers like ioctl.h that is "pull half of everything".
device.h, for example.

So, you can start untangling them piece by piece.
Not sure how [1] is actual right now, but I believe plenty of those
can still be used.

[1]: https://lwn.net/ml/linux-kernel/YdIfz+LMewetSaEB@gmail.com/

-- 
With Best Regards,
Andy Shevchenko



  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-01 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-29 19:52 [PATCH 0/3] Unload linux/kernel.h Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-11-29 19:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] kernel.h: drop STACK_MAGIC macro Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-11-29 20:32   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-11-29 23:40     ` Randy Dunlap
2025-12-01  7:46   ` Jani Nikula
2025-12-02 20:58     ` Andi Shyti
2025-12-02 21:18       ` Yury Norov
2025-12-03  7:40         ` Jani Nikula
2025-12-01  9:38   ` Christophe Leroy (CS GROUP)
2025-12-02  2:50     ` Yury Norov
2025-12-02  7:37       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-11-29 19:53 ` [PATCH 2/3] kernel.h: move VERIFY_OCTAL_PERMISSIONS() to sysfs.h Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-11-29 20:24   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-11-29 20:33     ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-11-29 20:35       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-11-30 17:56         ` Yury Norov
2025-11-30 19:35           ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-11-30  6:19     ` Randy Dunlap
2025-11-30 17:42       ` Yury Norov
2025-11-30 19:38         ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-01 19:51           ` Randy Dunlap
2025-12-01 20:00             ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-11-30 18:27     ` Yury Norov
2025-11-30 19:42       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-01 19:01   ` Petr Pavlu
2025-12-01 19:20     ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-11-29 19:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] tracing: move tracing declarations from kernel.h to a dedicated header Yury Norov (NVIDIA)
2025-11-29 20:30   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-11-30 18:16     ` Yury Norov
2025-11-30 19:44       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-11-30 20:36         ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-30 23:09         ` david laight
2025-12-01  2:50           ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-12-01 10:16             ` david laight
2025-12-01 15:37               ` Andy Shevchenko [this message]
2025-11-30 20:34   ` Steven Rostedt
2025-11-29 20:02 ` ✗ LGCI.VerificationFailed: failure for Unload linux/kernel.h Patchwork
2025-11-30 18:01 ` ✗ LGCI.VerificationFailed: failure for Unload linux/kernel.h (rev2) Patchwork

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