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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Tvrtko Ursulin <tvrtko.ursulin@linux.intel.com>
Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	Paul Menzel <pmenzel+alsa-devel@molgen.mpg.de>,
	intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Lucas De Marchi <lucas.demarchi@intel.com>,
	amadeuszx.slawinski@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2] ALSA: hda/i915 - avoid hung task timeout in i915 wait
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2022 10:23:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5h5yonjx7i.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9dabb68b-f2af-ae97-0fb2-869367c496bf@linux.intel.com>

On Wed, 09 Mar 2022 10:02:13 +0100,
Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> 
> 
> On 09/03/2022 08:39, Kai Vehmanen wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Mar 2022, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> >
> >>> -			/* 60s timeout */
> >>
> >> Where does this 60s come from and why is the fix to work around
> >> DEFAULT_HUNG_TASK_TIMEOUT in a hacky way deemed okay? For instance would
> >> limiting the wait here to whatever the kconfig is set to be an option?
> >
> > this was discussed in
> > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2022-February/290821.html
> > ... and that thread concluded it's cleaner to split the wait than try
> > to figure out hung-task configuration from middle of audio driver.
> >
> > The 60sec timeout comes from 2019 patch "ALSA: hda: Extend i915 component
> > bind timeout" to fix an issue reported by Paul Menzel (cc'ed).
> >
> > This patch keeps the timeout intact.
> 
> I did not spot discussion touching on the point I raised.
> 
> How about not fight the hung task detector but mark your wait context
> as "I really know what I'm doing - not stuck trust me".

The question is how often this problem hits.  Basically it's a very
corner case, and I even think we may leave as is; that's a matter of
configuration, and lowering such a bar should expect some
side-effect. OTOH, if the problem happens in many cases, it's
beneficial to fix in the core part, indeed.

> Maybe using
> wait_for_completion_killable_timeout would do it since
> snd_hdac_i915_init is allowed to fail with an error already?

It makes it killable -- which is a complete behavior change.


Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-09  9:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-08 17:27 [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2] ALSA: hda/i915 - avoid hung task timeout in i915 wait Kai Vehmanen
2022-03-09  2:39 ` [Intel-gfx] ✗ Fi.CI.BUILD: failure for ALSA: hda/i915 - avoid hung task timeout in i915 wait (rev2) Patchwork
2022-03-09  8:36 ` [Intel-gfx] [PATCH v2] ALSA: hda/i915 - avoid hung task timeout in i915 wait Tvrtko Ursulin
2022-03-09  8:39   ` Kai Vehmanen
2022-03-09  9:02     ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2022-03-09  9:23       ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2022-03-09  9:48         ` Tvrtko Ursulin
2022-03-09  9:55           ` Takashi Iwai
2022-03-09 13:05             ` Kai Vehmanen
2022-03-09  8:55   ` Takashi Iwai

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