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* Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next] e1000e: Fix real-time violations on link up
       [not found] <20241203202814.56140-1-gerhard@engleder-embedded.com>
@ 2024-12-04 10:10 ` Przemek Kitszel
  2024-12-04 20:21   ` Gerhard Engleder
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Przemek Kitszel @ 2024-12-04 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gerhard Engleder
  Cc: anthony.l.nguyen, andrew+netdev, netdev, davem, kuba, edumazet,
	pabeni, Gerhard Engleder, Vitaly Lifshits,
	intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org

On 12/3/24 21:28, Gerhard Engleder wrote:
> From: Gerhard Engleder <eg@keba.com>
> 
> From: Gerhard Engleder <eg@keba.com>

duplicated From: line

> 
> Link down and up triggers update of MTA table. This update executes many
> PCIe writes and a final flush. Thus, PCIe will be blocked until all writes
> are flushed. As a result, DMA transfers of other targets suffer from delay
> in the range of 50us. This results in timing violations on real-time
> systems during link down and up of e1000e.
> 
> A flush after a low enough number of PCIe writes eliminates the delay
> but also increases the time needed for MTA table update. The following
> measurements were done on i3-2310E with e1000e for 128 MTA table entries:
> 
> Single flush after all writes: 106us
> Flush after every write:       429us
> Flush after every 2nd write:   266us
> Flush after every 4th write:   180us
> Flush after every 8th write:   141us
> Flush after every 16th write:  121us
> 
> A flush after every 8th write delays the link up by 35us and the
> negative impact to DMA transfers of other targets is still tolerable.
> 
> Execute a flush after every 8th write. This prevents overloading the
> interconnect with posted writes. As this also increases the time spent for
> MTA table update considerable this change is limited to PREEMPT_RT.

hmm, why to limit this to PREEMPT_RT, the change sounds resonable also
for the standard kernel, at last for me
(perhaps with every 16th write instead)

with that said, I'm fine with this patch as is too

> 
> Signed-off-by: Gerhard Engleder <eg@keba.com>

would be good to add link to your RFC
https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/f8fe665a-5e6c-4f95-b47a-2f3281aa0e6c@lunn.ch/T/

and also CC Vitaly who participated there (done),
same for IWL mailing list (also CCd), and use iwl-next tag for your
future contributions to intel ethernet

> ---
>   drivers/net/ethernet/intel/e1000e/mac.c | 8 +++++++-
>   1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/e1000e/mac.c b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/e1000e/mac.c
> index d7df2a0ed629..7a2c10a4ecc5 100644
> --- a/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/e1000e/mac.c
> +++ b/drivers/net/ethernet/intel/e1000e/mac.c
> @@ -331,8 +331,14 @@ void e1000e_update_mc_addr_list_generic(struct e1000_hw *hw,
>   	}
>   
>   	/* replace the entire MTA table */
> -	for (i = hw->mac.mta_reg_count - 1; i >= 0; i--)
> +	for (i = hw->mac.mta_reg_count - 1; i >= 0; i--) {
>   		E1000_WRITE_REG_ARRAY(hw, E1000_MTA, i, hw->mac.mta_shadow[i]);
> +		if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT)) {
> +			/* do not queue up too many writes */
> +			if ((i % 8) == 0 && i != 0)
> +				e1e_flush();
> +		}
> +	}
>   	e1e_flush();
>   }
>   



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* Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next] e1000e: Fix real-time violations on link up
  2024-12-04 10:10 ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH net-next] e1000e: Fix real-time violations on link up Przemek Kitszel
@ 2024-12-04 20:21   ` Gerhard Engleder
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Gerhard Engleder @ 2024-12-04 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Przemek Kitszel
  Cc: anthony.l.nguyen, andrew+netdev, netdev, davem, kuba, edumazet,
	pabeni, Gerhard Engleder, Vitaly Lifshits,
	intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org

On 04.12.24 11:10, Przemek Kitszel wrote:
> On 12/3/24 21:28, Gerhard Engleder wrote:
>> From: Gerhard Engleder <eg@keba.com>
>>
>> From: Gerhard Engleder <eg@keba.com>
> 
> duplicated From: line

Nervous fingers, sorry, will be fixed.

>>
>> Link down and up triggers update of MTA table. This update executes many
>> PCIe writes and a final flush. Thus, PCIe will be blocked until all 
>> writes
>> are flushed. As a result, DMA transfers of other targets suffer from 
>> delay
>> in the range of 50us. This results in timing violations on real-time
>> systems during link down and up of e1000e.
>>
>> A flush after a low enough number of PCIe writes eliminates the delay
>> but also increases the time needed for MTA table update. The following
>> measurements were done on i3-2310E with e1000e for 128 MTA table entries:
>>
>> Single flush after all writes: 106us
>> Flush after every write:       429us
>> Flush after every 2nd write:   266us
>> Flush after every 4th write:   180us
>> Flush after every 8th write:   141us
>> Flush after every 16th write:  121us
>>
>> A flush after every 8th write delays the link up by 35us and the
>> negative impact to DMA transfers of other targets is still tolerable.
>>
>> Execute a flush after every 8th write. This prevents overloading the
>> interconnect with posted writes. As this also increases the time spent 
>> for
>> MTA table update considerable this change is limited to PREEMPT_RT.
> 
> hmm, why to limit this to PREEMPT_RT, the change sounds resonable also
> for the standard kernel, at last for me
> (perhaps with every 16th write instead)

As Andrew argumented similar, I will remove the PREEMPT_RT dependency
with the next version. This is not the hot path, so the additional delay
of <<1ms for boot and interface up is negligible.

> with that said, I'm fine with this patch as is too
> 
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Gerhard Engleder <eg@keba.com>
> 
> would be good to add link to your RFC
> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/f8fe665a-5e6c-4f95-b47a-2f3281aa0e6c@lunn.ch/T/
> 
> and also CC Vitaly who participated there (done),
> same for IWL mailing list (also CCd), and use iwl-next tag for your
> future contributions to intel ethernet

Will be done.

Thank you for the review!

Gerhard

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