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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: intel-wired-lan@osuosl.org
Subject: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH tip:irq/core v1] genirq: remove auto-set of the mask when setting the hint
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 02:03:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87im3gewlu.ffs@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFki+Lkjn2VCBcLSAfQZ2PEkx-TR0Ts_jPnK9b-5ne3PUX37TQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, May 17 2021 at 18:44, Nitesh Lal wrote:
> On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 4:48 PM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>> The hint was added so that userspace has a better understanding where it
>> should place the interrupt. So if irqbalanced ignores it anyway, then
>> what's the point of the hint? IOW, why is it still used drivers?
>>
> Took a quick look at the irqbalance repo and saw the following commit:
>
> dcc411e7bf    remove affinity_hint infrastructure
>
> The commit message mentions that "PJ is redesiging how affinity hinting
> works in the kernel, the future model will just tell us to ignore an IRQ,
> and the kernel will handle placement for us.  As such we can remove the
> affinity_hint recognition entirely".

No idea who PJ is. I really love useful commit messages. Maybe Neil can
shed some light on that.

> This does indicate that apparently, irqbalance moved away from the usage of
> affinity_hint. However, the next question is what was this future
> model?

I might have missed something in the last 5 years, but that's the first
time I hear about someone trying to cleanup that thing.

> I don't know but I can surely look into it if that helps or maybe someone
> here already knows about it?

I CC'ed Neil :)

>> Now there is another aspect to that. What happens if irqbalanced does
>> not run at all and a driver relies on the side effect of the hint
>> setting the initial affinity. Bah...
>>
>
> Right, but if they only rely on this API so that the IRQs are spread across
> all the CPUs then that issue is already resolved and these other drivers
> should not regress because of changing this behavior. Isn't it?

Is that true for all architectures?

>> While none of the drivers (except the perf muck) actually prevents
>> userspace from fiddling with the affinity (via IRQF_NOBALANCING) a
>> deeper inspection shows that they actually might rely on the current
>> behaviour if irqbalanced is disabled. Of course every driver has its own
>> convoluted way to do that and all of those functions are well
>> documented. What a mess.
>>
>> If the hint still serves a purpose then we can provide a variant which
>> solely applies the hint and does not fiddle with the actual affinity,
>> but if the hint is useless anyway then we have a way better option to
>> clean that up.
>>
>
> +1

= 1

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-18  0:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-01  2:18 [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH tip:irq/core v1] genirq: remove auto-set of the mask when setting the hint Jesse Brandeburg
2021-05-04 12:15 ` Robin Murphy
2021-05-04 14:29   ` Nitesh Lal
2021-05-04 16:23   ` Jesse Brandeburg
2021-05-17 16:57     ` Nitesh Lal
2021-05-17 17:26       ` Robin Murphy
2021-05-17 18:08         ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-17 18:50           ` Robin Murphy
2021-05-17 19:08             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-17 19:43               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-17 20:18               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-17 18:21         ` Nitesh Lal
2021-05-17 19:47           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-17 21:13             ` Nitesh Lal
2021-05-17 20:48     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-17 22:44       ` Nitesh Lal
2021-05-18  0:03         ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2021-05-18  0:23           ` Nitesh Lal
2021-05-20 21:57             ` Nitesh Lal
2021-05-21  0:03               ` Nitesh Lal
2021-05-21 11:56                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-21 12:03                   ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH] genirq: Provide new interfaces for affinity hints Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-21 15:45                     ` Lijun Pan
2021-05-21 21:45                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-05-21 16:13                     ` Nitesh Lal
2021-05-21 21:48                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-06-04 20:35                         ` Nitesh Lal
2021-05-27 10:03                     ` Shung-Hsi Yu
2021-05-27 10:21                       ` Shung-Hsi Yu
2021-05-27 13:06                       ` Nitesh Lal
2021-05-28  7:20                         ` Shung-Hsi Yu
2021-06-07 17:00                     ` Nitesh Lal
2021-06-14 16:12                       ` Nitesh Lal
2021-05-21 13:46                   ` [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH tip:irq/core v1] genirq: remove auto-set of the mask when setting the hint Nitesh Lal
2021-05-21 15:15                     ` Thomas Gleixner

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